[OSGeo Africa] Africa Digest, Vol 170, Issue 4

Frank Sokolic sokolic at worldonline.co.za
Fri Apr 30 03:17:32 PDT 2021


Hi Pieter,

Thanks for that information. I'll follow up with the deeds office to see 
if they have anything.

Regards, Frank.

On 2021/04/28 11:19, Pieter Holtzhausen wrote:
> Good day Frank,
>
> I believe there aren't such a boundary layer per se.
> The areas would be represented by the properties registered at the 
> deeds office (under the Ingoyama Trust Board).
>
> You could also try to contact the Ingoyama Trust Board directly.
>
> Kind regards,
> Pieter Holtzhausen
>
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>        3. Re: Ingonyama Trust Board boundaries (Frank Sokolic)
>        4. Re: Ingonyama Trust Board boundaries (Francis Twumasi)
>        5. Re: Ingonyama Trust Board boundaries (Sibonelo Dlamini)
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>     Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 08:50:15 +0200
>     From: Frank Sokolic <sokolic at worldonline.co.za
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>     Subject: [OSGeo Africa] Ingonyama Trust Board boundaries
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>     Hi list members,
>
>     Does anyone know of a downloadable spatial dataset showing the
>     boundaries of the Ingonyama Trust Board (ITB) in KwaZulu-Natal? If it
>     doesn't exist, would it be safe to assume that the ITB boundaries are
>     the same as those of the KwaZulu homeland in 1994?
>
>     Regards, Frank.
>
>
>
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>     Message: 2
>     Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 11:09:40 +0200
>     From: Marilene Heunis <marilene.heunis at gmail.com
>     <mailto:marilene.heunis at gmail.com>>
>     To: sokolic at worldonline.co.za <mailto:sokolic at worldonline.co.za>,
>     Africa local chapter discussions
>             <africa at lists.osgeo.org <mailto:africa at lists.osgeo.org>>
>     Subject: Re: [OSGeo Africa] Ingonyama Trust Board boundaries
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>     Frank, that land was administered by the former Department of Land
>     Affairs
>     and perhaps still is by a Land Administration department of some
>     sorts of
>     the latest Department of Agriculture, Land Reform and Rural
>     Development.
>
>     Regards
>     Marilene Heunis
>
>     On Fri, 23 Apr 2021, 09:11 Frank Sokolic,
>     <sokolic at worldonline.co.za <mailto:sokolic at worldonline.co.za>> wrote:
>
>     > Hi list members,
>     >
>     > Does anyone know of a downloadable spatial dataset showing the
>     > boundaries of the Ingonyama Trust Board (ITB) in KwaZulu-Natal?
>     If it
>     > doesn't exist, would it be safe to assume that the ITB
>     boundaries are
>     > the same as those of the KwaZulu homeland in 1994?
>     >
>     > Regards, Frank.
>     >
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>     Dear Marilene,
>
>     Thanks for that tip. I'll follow up with them to see if they've got
>     anything.
>
>     Regards, Frank.
>
>     On 2021/04/23 11:09, Marilene Heunis wrote:
>     > Frank, that land was administered by the former Department of Land
>     > Affairs? and perhaps still is by a Land Administration
>     department of
>     > some sorts of the latest Department of Agriculture, Land Reform and
>     > Rural Development.
>     >
>     > Regards
>     > Marilene Heunis
>     >
>     > On Fri, 23 Apr 2021, 09:11 Frank Sokolic,
>     <sokolic at worldonline.co.za <mailto:sokolic at worldonline.co.za>
>     > <mailto:sokolic at worldonline.co.za
>     <mailto:sokolic at worldonline.co.za>>> wrote:
>     >
>     >     Hi list members,
>     >
>     >     Does anyone know of a downloadable spatial dataset showing the
>     >     boundaries of the Ingonyama Trust Board (ITB) in
>     KwaZulu-Natal? If it
>     >     doesn't exist, would it be safe to assume that the ITB
>     boundaries are
>     >     the same as those of the KwaZulu homeland in 1994?
>     >
>     >     Regards, Frank.
>     >
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>     Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 12:14:54 +0000
>     From: Francis Twumasi <Francis.Twumasi at dalrrd.gov.za
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>     Frank,
>     How are you doing? Have you checked with Demarcation Board and
>     Cogta (I guess you are likely to get the datasets on tribal land
>     including Ingonyama Trust land from there).
>     I hope you still remember me in our years at the then University
>     of Natal from 1997 to 2000?
>     Warmest regards,
>     Francis
>
>     From: Africa <africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>> On Behalf Of Frank Sokolic
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>     Dear Marilene,
>
>     Thanks for that tip. I'll follow up with them to see if they've
>     got anything.
>
>     Regards, Frank.
>
>     On 2021/04/23 11:09, Marilene Heunis wrote:
>     Frank, that land was administered by the former Department of Land
>     Affairs  and perhaps still is by a Land Administration department
>     of some sorts of the latest Department of Agriculture, Land Reform
>     and Rural Development.
>
>     Regards
>     Marilene Heunis
>
>     On Fri, 23 Apr 2021, 09:11 Frank Sokolic,
>     <sokolic at worldonline.co.za
>     <mailto:sokolic at worldonline.co.za><mailto:sokolic at worldonline.co.za
>     <mailto:sokolic at worldonline.co.za>>> wrote:
>     Hi list members,
>
>     Does anyone know of a downloadable spatial dataset showing the
>     boundaries of the Ingonyama Trust Board (ITB) in KwaZulu-Natal? If it
>     doesn't exist, would it be safe to assume that the ITB boundaries are
>     the same as those of the KwaZulu homeland in 1994?
>
>     Regards, Frank.
>
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>     Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2021 18:08:08 +0200
>     From: Sibonelo Dlamini <sibonelo021 at gmail.com
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>     Dear Frank
>
>     NGI might not have these kind of boundaries to be specific and to be
>     accurate. I would also like to assume Dermacation Board or Cogta
>     in KZN may
>     assist you further..
>
>     Kind Regards
>     Sibonelo Dlamini MR. (personal capacity)
>
>     On Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 2:15 PM Francis Twumasi
>     <Francis.Twumasi at dalrrd.gov.za <mailto:Francis.Twumasi at dalrrd.gov.za>>
>     wrote:
>
>     > Frank,
>     >
>     > How are you doing? Have you checked with Demarcation Board and
>     Cogta (I
>     > guess you are likely to get the datasets on tribal land
>     including Ingonyama
>     > Trust land from there).
>     >
>     > I hope you still remember me in our years at the then University
>     of Natal
>     > from 1997 to 2000?
>     >
>     > Warmest regards,
>     >
>     > Francis
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > *From:* Africa <africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:africa-bounces at lists.osgeo.org>> *On Behalf Of *Frank
>     > Sokolic
>     > *Sent:* Friday, 23 April 2021 13:44
>     > *To:* Africa local chapter discussions <africa at lists.osgeo.org
>     <mailto:africa at lists.osgeo.org>>
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>     > Dear Marilene,
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Thanks for that tip. I'll follow up with them to see if they've got
>     > anything.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Regards, Frank.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On 2021/04/23 11:09, Marilene Heunis wrote:
>     >
>     > Frank, that land was administered by the former Department of Land
>     > Affairs  and perhaps still is by a Land Administration
>     department of some
>     > sorts of the latest Department of Agriculture, Land Reform and Rural
>     > Development.
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Regards
>     >
>     > Marilene Heunis
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Fri, 23 Apr 2021, 09:11 Frank Sokolic,
>     <sokolic at worldonline.co.za <mailto:sokolic at worldonline.co.za>>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     > Hi list members,
>     >
>     > Does anyone know of a downloadable spatial dataset showing the
>     > boundaries of the Ingonyama Trust Board (ITB) in KwaZulu-Natal?
>     If it
>     > doesn't exist, would it be safe to assume that the ITB
>     boundaries are
>     > the same as those of the KwaZulu homeland in 1994?
>     >
>     > Regards, Frank.
>     >
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