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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-ZA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Although that doesn’t negate the discussion around licensing<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Century Gothic","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Wolfgang Luck<br><b>Sent:</b> 25 August 2010 01:19 PM<br><b>To:</b> africa@lists.osgeo.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [OSGeo Africa] RE: Google maps API - whats legal?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hi Walter<br>We just had a great QGIS course and found the Open Layers plugin for QGIS that lets you pull in Google Earth imagery directly into QGIS. Have a look at that source code. You might want to go the same route.<br>Greetings Wolfgang<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Wolfgang Lück<br>CSIR<br>Satellite Application Centre<br>Earth Observation Service Centre<br>Technology Manager<br>Tel +27 12 334 5142<br>Fax +27 12 334 5001<br>Email:wluck@csir.co.za<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><br>>>> "Walter Smit" <<a href="mailto:walter@digitalgeography.co.za">walter@digitalgeography.co.za</a>> 08/25/10 11:51 AM >>><br>Thanks Andrew (for stirring the slush)<br><br>My sentiments exactly...unfortunately. Thats why I asked the question in the<br>first place.<br><br>But what I want to do cannot be done through the Google API alone - I have<br>to use my webserver for some things (filtering/selections etc). But I am<br>then using Google to enhance the look of a part of the website... Then again<br>- it is free marketing for Google. Clear as mud.<br><br>I wonder what the Bing Maps (Microsoft) terms and conditions<br>are....especially with the new integration agreement with ESRI...Not that I<br>want to use their software. I think I am going to try and find another<br>solution.<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]<br>On Behalf Of Andrew de Klerk<br>Sent: 25 August 2010 08:55 AM<br>To: 'Africa local chapter discussions'<br>Subject: RE: [OSGeo Africa] RE: Google maps API - whats legal?<br><br>Many people read into the license agreement and believe that they can use<br>the google API for commercial use as long as you keep within the certain<br>boundaries. Tracking is a definite no and requires you pay their annual<br>license fee. We have just completed a site for someone who was quite happy<br>to adopt this principle. He is receiving income through his site, and is<br>utilizing google maps to display data for points of interest he is accepting<br>income for. I personally believe he is violating the terms of the google<br>maps api, but as you say "clear as mud"<br>My take on it all - if you receive income for what you are displaying - pay<br>up, if not, free to use.<br><br>Andrew<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]<br>On Behalf Of Walter Smit<br>Sent: 25 August 2010 08:43 AM<br>To: 'Africa local chapter discussions'<br>Subject: RE: [OSGeo Africa] RE: Google maps API - whats legal?<br><br>Hi Grant<br><br>I have read that - but I don't think it applies to my case. As I explained -<br>I wont be uploading my data to Google, so there is no way for them to use it<br>in searches/Maps/Earth. I will be displaying my data (using my own<br>webserver) *on top of* whatever Google has. Think of it as a two different<br>layers - from two different systems.<br><br>If I was going to use Google to display my data (ie upload my data to their<br>servers) then the sections you mentioned would apply. And as you point out -<br>even then you can opt out of making your content searchable.<br><br>Thanks for the comments - as a colleague of mine would say "this is as clear<br>as mud" :-)<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org]<br>On Behalf Of Grant Slater<br>Sent: 24 August 2010 04:54 PM<br>To: Africa local chapter discussions<br>Subject: Re: [OSGeo Africa] RE: Google maps API - whats legal?<br><br>On 24 August 2010 15:16, Jeremiah Kamau <<a href="mailto:kamaujeremiah@google.com">kamaujeremiah@google.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br>> From what I understand:<br>><br><snip><br>><br>> In any case, Google does not get your data hence it is not search-able <br>> on<br>Google Maps or even Google Search - no need to worry about this. Feel free<br>to go ahead and use the service.<br><br>No, I believe you are mistaken. Google is granted rights to use the data<br>including specifically search. See section 11.1 of the Terms of<br>Service: <a href="http://code.google.com/apis/maps/terms.html">http://code.google.com/apis/maps/terms.html</a><br>-----<br>Licenses from You to Google:<br>Content License. Google claims no ownership over Your Content, and you<br>retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Your Content. By<br>submitting, posting or displaying Your Content in the Service, you give<br>Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive<br>license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publicly perform, publicly<br>display and distribute Your Content through the Service and as search<br>results through Google Services. This license is solely for the purpose of<br>enabling Google to operate the Service, to promote the Service (including<br>through public presentations), and to index and serve such content as search<br>results through Google Services. If you are unable or unwilling to provide<br>such a license to Your Content, please see the FAQ for information on<br>configuring your Maps API Implementation to opt out.<br>-----<br><br>Also there is a restriction on displaying live tracking information on the<br>map. 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