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Hi Dorothy<BR>
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On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 21:11 +0000, Dorothy K. Gordon wrote:<BR>
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Actually I am facing terrible challenges with GIS training, every expert I get and we do have lots of them around wants to teach everyone everything (which is difficult to sustain). Are there any 5 day courses that can get people hooked <BR>
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Get which people hooked on what? <BR>
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University students hooked on FOSS GIS ('everything')<BR>
Professionals hooked on PostGIS? (or something equally specific)<BR>
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I'm sure if you mention specific requirements you'll find someone with a worthwhile scheduled or custom course who can get people hooked :-)<BR>
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There are several options based in South Africa (who will also travel) but I'm not aware of FOSS GIS training options elsewhere in Africa, other than the UN in Nairobi and some other NGOs. <BR>
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and that members in the group have tried and tested? Should I forget about GIS experts for this and use regular IT people?<BR>
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You do need the GIS expertise to cover domain topics like topology, projections, spatial analysis etc. which 'regular IT people' won't necessarily have a grasp of. <BR>
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Gavin<BR>
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Thanks in advance.<BR>
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Dorothy K. Gordon
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Sent: Wednesday, 29 February, 2012 2:31:17 PM GMT +00:00 Casablanca / Monrovia
Subject: Re: [OSGeo Africa] Junior GIS Developer needed
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Dear All <BR>
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Another avenue to promote FOSS is at schools and tertiary institutions. I teach both FOSS and "proprietary" GIS software to students; whilst promoting the benefits of FOSS (especially as a teaching modality) to students. Hopefully, they will take the benefits of this approach to future employers. <BR>
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An aside, I would be keen to network with others interested in projects that would involve collaboration between CPUT/UCT students and "industry". My email is < <A HREF="mailto:randa@cput.ac.za">randa@cput.ac.za</A> > for further correspondence. <BR>
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Regards
Andrew
On 29 February 2012 16:08, S Coetzer < <A HREF="mailto:geotech.sarel@gmail.com">geotech.sarel@gmail.com</A> > wrote:
Thanks Gavin
I remember those old docs (2007 - 2008). It will be nice to get current feedback of OSGEO mail "members" to see if they have promoted FOSS and to see what the current status in government is at the moment.
There has been a trend and shift in the GIS applications of late. Open source products are bringing out great functionality and has caused propitiatory software to release some functionality for free or lose clientele.
SQL server now has spatial extension (only couple years late)
ArcGIS 10 now has free analysis tools where you had to pay in the past (thanks to QGIS/Grass which had it for past 5 years)
It seems that OSS software is leading the propitiatory pack but yet organizations wants to pay license fees.
Just sharing my thoughts
Regards
Sarel Coetzer
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 3:45 PM, Gavin < <A HREF="mailto:gavinjfleming@gmail.com">gavinjfleming@gmail.com</A> > wrote:
I'm also interested in Modiba's take, and of other SITA employees on this list.
Here are some background docs to FOSS and interoperability policy in SA:
<A HREF="http://www.sita.co.za/FOSS/FOSS1.html">http://www.sita.co.za/FOSS/FOSS1.html</A>
<A HREF="http://gissa.org.za/special-interest-groups/open-source/foss-documents">http://gissa.org.za/special-interest-groups/open-source/foss-documents</A>
I know from the SITA COO that she was hoping to have a FOSS GIS transition / rollout plan ready by the end of this financial year but that all the requirements were unlikely to be in place by then. So we should look forward to lots of SITA activity in this space in the coming year.
Gavin
On Wed, 2012-02-29 at 13:36 +0200, S Coetzer wrote:
Hi Modiba
Please provide us (OSGEO List users) with Sita's policy with regards to using FOSS products. Very curious on your take on this.
Sarel Coetzer
On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Modiba Ramohlale < <A HREF="mailto:modiba.ramohlale@sita.co.za">modiba.ramohlale@sita.co.za</A> > wrote:
I will have to agree with Greg. I have guided two 'good' programmers
who initially had no knowledge of GIS. It took them less than 3 months
to understand how ArcIMS was constructed as well as AXL et al.
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Subject: RE: [OSGeo Africa] Junior GIS Developer needed
Dear Jeffy,
I do have someone who is a Developer/ programmer, what he has no GIS
background at this stage but he is willing to learn. His credentials
include -Javascript
-C#.
.Net
-SQL Server.
If you can provide training on the ArcGIS programme, he will not
disappoint you. His contact are 0739854916 . His name is Grant Mandla
Setei.
Regards,
Greg S
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Subject: [OSGeo Africa] Junior GIS Developer needed
Hi All,
I need a GIS Developer a.s.a.p to be based in Pretoria Head Office of
Department of Public Works.
-Knowleage of ESRI ArcGIS Suite 9.3.1 or above -ASP.net -Javascript
-C#.Net -SQL Server or Oracle DB -Proficient in OOP, Design patterns,
best practices and be experience of SDLC.
Willing to learn new technologies, team player and innovative.
I am will to teach the potential candidate if she/he shortfall of the
above requirements.
Preferable be South African with a valid ID and just graduated from a
reputable University but if Foreign Nationals,be ready with proper work
documentation.
Thanks and regards,
Jeofrey Ditsela ( <A HREF="http://www.tipp.co.za">www.tipp.co.za</A> )
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