Hi<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 9:57 AM, S Coetzer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:geotech.sarel@gmail.com" target="_blank">geotech.sarel@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi<div class="im"><br><br>The big question however, is this: Is the whole Vulindlela project
itself FOSS according to the government FOSS policy? In other words,
could someone at a municipality or surveyor's office get the source
code and set up their own instance of Vulindlela's e-Cadastre? <br><br></div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">By following OGC standards there
would be no need to get source code, you could write your own
application accepting WMS/WFS layers.</span><div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>That you are following OGC standards is great.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">
<br>And
use an in-house or outsourced developer to modify and contribute to
the project?<br></div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Because of the wide spectrum of users we have to cater for a certain level of security, this should be applied to every layer of the development stack.</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">The Vulindlela development stack is a "corporate" stack with strong authentication mechanism and its not open for any developer to code, think in the lines of a banking application.</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Vulindlela administers the entire purchase transaction of a property which hosts very sensitive user data. Would you like a programmer to access your ID, tax number, banking details and personal data?</span></blockquote>
<div><br></div><div><br></div><div>That assumes you ship the data with the source right? Is there any utility in making the platform available without the data? I think that was what Gavin was after....</div><div> </div>
<div>
<br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Tim</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
<br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">I need to get authority to display the various components of the stack, it would make you understand the decision we made to go the Oracle route, none the less still adhering to open standards. Oracle provides us an entire integrated development environment from database, middleware, applications and servers all under one vendor. </span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
<br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Im a avid open source fanatic and push for open source everyday. The open source thinking gets people and government officials out of this "spoon fed believe the vendor" sales talk but a combination of both makes for an interesting future for example, Oracle bought Mysql and is using Linux as one of their stacks which Im using as a development stack.</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">
<br><br><span style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Anyway, let me know if you have more questions or concerns.</span><br><br><br><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Regards,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:#ed1c24" lang="EN-ZA">Sarel Coetzer</span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#ed1c24" lang="EN-ZA">GIS Specialist/Developer</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#ed1c24">Systems Engineering</span><span style="color:#ed1c24" lang="EN-ZA"></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#004c5b" lang="EN-ZA">Email: <a href="mailto:sarel.coetzer@gijima.com" target="_blank">sarel.coetzer@<span>gijima</span>.com</a></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d" lang="EN-ZA"><a href="http://www.gijima.com/" target="_blank"><b><span style="color:#004c5b">www.<span>gijima</span>.com</span></b></a></span><b><span style="color:#004c5b" lang="EN-ZA"></span></b></p>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Gavin Fleming <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:gavin@afrispatial.co.za" target="_blank">gavin@afrispatial.co.za</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On 05/09/2012 06:46, S Coetzer wrote:<br>
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Im an Oracle Spatial Developer for Gijima working on the <a href="http://eepublishers.co.za/article/mmuso-riba-107-02-vulindlela-project.html" target="_blank">Vulindlela
project </a><br>
We are essentially developing software to automate the
administration of the South African Cadastre by integrating Deeds
and Chief Surveyor General business processses.<br>
The spatial module will contain several open source products such
as GDAL for importing and exporting spatial layers into various
formats and Openlayers & GeoExt to support client-side mapping
functions.<br>
<br>
What we are definitely following is OGC standards (for whats its
worth).</blockquote>
<br>
Thanks for this, Sarel<br>
<br>
It's good to know some FOSS tools and open standards are being used
in a big government project. <br>
<br>
The big question however, is this: Is the whole Vulindlela project
itself FOSS according to the government FOSS policy? In other words,
could someone at a municipality or surveyor's office get the source
code and set up their own instance of Vulindlela's e-Cadastre? And
use an in-house or outsourced developer to modify and contribute to
the project?<br>
<br>
If it's not FOSS, why not?<br>
<br>
And can you shed any light on why Oracle was chosen over PostGIS?<span><font color="#888888"><br>
<br>
Gavin<br>
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Gavin
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