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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">AAaargh! WGS84<br>
      (I'll go away, now)<br>
      On 2014/09/29 15:03, Zoltan Szecsei wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi again,<br>
        Sorry - forgot to add:<br>
        If you don't do the re-projection, your survey diagram will sit
        approx 296m N/S and 50m E/W away from your <font
          color="#990000">WGS95</font> orthophoto.<br>
        If it sits only some 50m or so away from where it should sit,
        then it is likely that the Datum shift (between Cape &
        Harte94) wasn't applied.<br>
        <br>
        Wow - that's the best my memory serves me - I last did this
        stuff in 2003.<br>
        Perhaps there is a surveyor on this list that can add to, or
        correct, what I have suggested?<br>
        <br>
        Wesley: If you're still stuck in a day or so, contact me off
        list & we can get it sorted better if I have the data set
        from you.<br>
        <br>
        Regards,<br>
        Z<br>
        <br>
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        On 2014/09/29 14:47, Zoltan Szecsei wrote:<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Wesley,<br>
          That survey will be on the Cape datum, and not the Harte94
          datum, so you will have to use the Cape datum to throw it back
          to LatLong, and then use the Harte94 Datum to push it forward
          to WG19<br>
          <br>
          The Lo19 and WG19 coordinates are much the same in that they
          both are "Metres from Longitude 19degs" and "metres from the
          Equator"<br>
          Note that if you use proj type definitions, they are +ve South
          (ie South facing) - looking at the coords you are showing
          below, yours are North facing. <br>
          This 'North facing fix' was done because, especially in the
          old days, CAD system could not handle South facing coords, so
          that was rectified by simply multiplying each column of
          numbers by "-1".<br>
          <br>
          I have a 'C' program somewhere that I wrote many years back,
          that handles this - but maybe someone on this list has done
          this with proj & QGIS.<br>
          Although I haven't had to do this for many years, I'd be
          interested in a QGIS solution.<br>
          <br>
          HTH,<br>
          Zoltan<br>
          <br>
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          On 2014/09/29 14:37, Dr Wesley Roberts wrote:<br>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">A friend has asked me to produce a map
              using a title deed SG document. The property in question
              was surveyed in 1975 and it appears to make use of the
              LO19 coordinate system. I am not that familiar with LO19
              and am having some trouble with defining a proj 4
              projection in QGIS. I have produced a custom CRS based on
              the this post by Gavin Flemming (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://afrispatial.co.za/foss-gis/south-african-projections-in-foss-gis/">http://afrispatial.co.za/foss-gis/south-african-projections-in-foss-gis/</a>).


              All seems well until I look at the location, I can find it
              using ancillary data. The coordinates on the title deed
              match only in the X domain (I have swopped both the X and
              the Y as well as the sign) while the Y domain appears to
              be “way out”. The SG title deed coordinate for one of the
              Y points is -9105.30 (Constant +9 760 000,00) while the
              same location in the QGIS returns a Y coordinate of around
              -3 769 758. Can anyone shed light on why there is such a
              large difference between the SG Diagram and the actual
              location?</p>
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            <p class="MsoListParagraph" style=""><span style="">1.<span
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                </span></span>I am thinking that it might be something
              to do with the fact that the property was surveyed in
              1975, any ideas?</p>
            <p class="MsoListParagraph" style=""><span style="">2.<span
                  style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">      
                </span></span>I have used the following proj 4
              definition – have I missed something?</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">+proj=tmerc +lat_0=0 +lon_0=19 +k=1
              +x_0=0 +y_0=0 +ellps=WGS84 +datum=WGS84 +units=m +no_defs</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Any help on this matter would be
              greatly appreciated.</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Regards,</p>
            <p class="MsoNormal">Wesley</p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Wesley Roberts, PhD</p>
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