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--></style></head><body bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi All,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I would just like to close this post and mark as complete / solved.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Myself, Gavin and Zoltan discussed the sg diagram off-list and with the help of both Gavin and Zoltan we managed to find a solution.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span style>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The SG diagram in question was not in feet but in meters, I misread a 3 for a 9 (stupid mistake but it comes with using scanned and printed documents)</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span style>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The contstants were added to the XY locations before importing the data into QGIS</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span style>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The correct projection to load the data into QGIS was EPSG 22279 Cape / Lo19 (<a href="http://epsg.io/22279">http://epsg.io/22279</a>)</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The workflow that worked for me was as follows</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span style>1.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Copy the coordinates into a spreadsheet remembering to add the specified constant to each coordinate (check the constant values carefully – this can cause major headaches if you don’t get it right)</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span style>2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Import into QGIS using the delimited text file import.</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span style>3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Keep X and Y the same (Don’t swop the axes)</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span style>4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Once the layer has been imported assign the correct projection to the layer (EPSG 22279)</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span style>5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Assign the project projection to the same EPSG code (22279) – Cape Lo19</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span style>6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">       </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The points should now map to the correct locations</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraph" style><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><span style>7.<span style="font:7.0pt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es. The points need to be rotated 180 degrees through the vertical, if that makes any sense.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I can mail a grphic off list should this not make sense.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Many thanks,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Wesley</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">Gavin Fleming</p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com/" target="_blank">http://kartoza.com</a> to find out about open source:<br>* Desktop GIS programming services<br>* Geospatial web development</p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">* GIS Training</p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">* Consulting Services</p><div><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">Skype: phlemingo</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center">Kartoza = Linfiniti <span style="font-family:"Cambria Math","serif"">∪</span> Afrispatial</p></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>