<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Hi</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Nhamo, Luxon (IWMI-South Africa) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:L.Nhamo@cgiar.org" target="_blank">L.Nhamo@cgiar.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And my question was not directed to a particular person. It was just an observation. Anyhow I was expecting that kind of response.
Apologies if anyone was offended. And I ask that my questions be ignored. I am well answered.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">For my part I wasn't offended just extremely surprised - the reason I started working on QGIS (12+ years ago just after the project was announced) was to democratise access to GIS technology - it's free and its open source and allows anyone with access to even a basic computer to start capturing and analysing the world around them. I am sure many other open source developers and projects have similar motivations, and the OSGEO organisation certainly entertains this as a core value of FOSSGIS, so it is about as far in the opposite extreme to elitism as you can get....</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">It's always good to have different views in a group like this, and I hope you find that the more you participate in FOSS the more inclusive and open the experience is ... I look forward to your future comments on this list...! :-)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Regards</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Tim</div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-ZA" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim Sutton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 04 September 2015 01:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Africa local chapter discussions <<a href="mailto:africa@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">africa@lists.osgeo.org</a>></span></p><div><div class="h5"><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] Slack Channel<u></u><u></u></div></div><p></p><div><div class="h5">
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Nhamo, Luxon (IWMI-South Africa) <<a href="mailto:L.Nhamo@cgiar.org" target="_blank">L.Nhamo@cgiar.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This seems more like a splinter/ elitist QGIS forum being formed here.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Sorry if my observations are wrong but what are the aims of this new group which are different from the current group?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">There is no new group, only new and diverse channels of comunication....its good to use different channels - some people like the immediacy of online chat, some like the ability to digest their
convesations via email. I was only pointing to the QGIS channel by way of example of what we would get if we would get if osgeo-africa formed a chat room on
<a href="http://gitter.im" target="_blank">gitter.im</a> (and also similar to what you would get on slack since the experience is almost the same).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">And by the way forming special interest groups is not a bad thing (I'm not sure why you used such pejorative language above) - if people want to share experiences and dive into detail in
one particular topic area it's just a normal and healthy process of a community. osgeo-africa list is itself an example of this - otherwise we would all be subscribed to the parent osgeo list and not have regional chapters. And yes I believe there is still
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<p class="MsoNormal">If there is interest I could set up an osgeo africa one (sorry to usurp your Slack promulgation Jeff haha :-) ). The reason I don't like slack is that their subscription fees are terribly expensive - or at the least pretty confusing… <a href="https://slack.com/pricing" target="_blank">https://slack.com/pricing</a>
whereas gitter is linked right into github which is nice and is free for public repos).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 03 Sep 2015, at 21:34, Jeff McKenna <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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On 2015-09-03 9:04 AM, Charles Rethman wrote:<br>
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Hi everybody,<br>
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This list has been really quiet lately… I’m wondering why? Is it<br>
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email is so last-century and we all moved over to Slack? If so,<br>
how do I<br>
join? If not, isn’t it time to set up a Team or a channel on a<br>
team like<br>
ZA Tech?<br>
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Charles Rethman<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Tim is a member of the QGIS Project Steering Committee<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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