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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>I agree that the scale of published maps is not very accurate, that’s why they have it downloadable in shapefiles. Admittedly not captured with great precision with respect to the cadaster and other features.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The Act says that when determining the boundaries, the board must take into account a whole long list of factors including the “</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>existing and proposed functional boundaries….” (presumably things like cadastral boundaries amongst others) – including the public consultation process.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>They do not publish their weightings to each criteria that they must assess before arriving at the final shapefile. It would be very wrong to simply adjust it to the cadastral line when one does not know the weighting they applied to each of the factors they had to consider including public input. Perhaps in consultation with a municipality, the municipality could have told them they wanted to put a future road along that boundary and so the demarcation board left that “buffer”. Perhaps in other cases the demarcation board has digitized a stream/river directly off imagery and that river has moved with respect to the cadastral boundary. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Even in cases where it’s clear as daylight that the demarcation data and cadastral data should align, if could well be that in rural areas, they may have followed ground information such as the induna areas of the tribal authority – which by the way, in most cases does not follow cadastral boundaries anyway. I have picked up on a few occasions, on housing jobs, this difference and its quite rational as it’s based on the peoples loyalty to different indunas and chiefs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>The word “cadastral” does not even appear in the act – surely if they intended it to follow such, they would simply just say so. Rather they use “functional boundaries” – which actually makes sense as it allows consideration of a whole host of other factors in their determination.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>It would be wrong to adjust any demarcation data, without evaluating the same criteria and information that was on hand to determine the limits in the first place – to do so would be in violation of the act as the act lays down all the considerations to take into account.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Peter</span><b><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> David Barkhuisen [mailto:dave@kirchhoffsurveyors.co.za] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 20, 2016 2:55 PM<br><b>To:</b> newmarch@land-surveyors.com; Africa local chapter discussions <africa@lists.osgeo.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] Municipal boundary demarcation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Hi <o:p></o:p></p><p>The gazette maps do not describe the area in an accurate manner such as the way a survey diagram or mining/prospecting diagram does with a diagram and accurate coordinate list. The gazette maps certainly don't involve much accuracy seeing as the Ethekwini gazette map in the link below is not drawn to scale.<o:p></o:p></p><p><a href="http://www.demarcation.org.za/index.php/downloads/boundary-data/kwazulu-natal-4/eth-1/detailed-ward-maps-156/2994-eth-ward-1/file">http://www.demarcation.org.za/index.php/downloads/boundary-data/kwazulu-natal-4/eth-1/detailed-ward-maps-156/2994-eth-ward-1/file</a><o:p></o:p></p><p>Regards<o:p></o:p></p><p>David<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 20/07/2016 13:47, Peter Newmarch wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Chris,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>The demarcation data is fixed. Its Gazetted as a map and not by cadastral boundaries or features. The land might for rating purposes fall in JHB, but for approvel purposes (SPLUMA) wherever the development falls spatially in terms of the municipal demarcation data – then that is the municipality.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I recently saw a case where a parent property was in Municpality A, but the new sub was Municpality B – because of the mismatch between the data.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Municipal data is determined by people numbers, while the intention might be to follow certain cadastral lines, its unfortunately not Gazetted that way and so leaves no room for any interpretation whatsoever – its fixed in absolute terms.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I know of two cases where very large farms are split down the middle because of municipal demarcation lines – but remains one property. I have never checked if the farms themselves appear in both municipal rates rolls, but certainly they have ward councillors from different municipalities on the same land parcel.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If you want to rectify the situation, you have to apply to amend the demarcation limits of the city and follow that process.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Peter</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> Africa [<a href="mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Kirchhoff<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 20, 2016 9:12 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'Africa local chapter discussions' <a href="mailto:africa@lists.osgeo.org"><africa@lists.osgeo.org></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] Municipal boundary demarcation</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Thanks Aslam,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>I have downloaded the shape files from the Demarcation board website and the Government Gazette </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>The problem that arises is that the Demarcation board Shape file Municipal boundary line , the property boundary line based on the Surveyor General digital boundary data and the actual WGS 84 coordinates as defined on the approved Surveyor General diagram that define the property boundary are not consistent.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>The Demarcation board Shape file municipal boundary line shows the Tshwane municipal boundary running inside a farm boundary by some 30m. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>This farm is supposed to be inside Johannesburg municipality.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>The Johannesburg municipality wishes to build a 30m wide road along the farm boundary but now sees that part of the road would fall inside Tshwane municipality according to the Demarcation board Shape file municipal boundary line.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>I would assume the obvious response is that the Municipal boundary should be contiguous with property boundaries, however I can find no legislation that clearly sates this ?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Would you have some thoughts on how to resolve this ?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222;background:white'>……………………………………...</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#C45911;background:white'>Chris Kirchhoff</span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#C45911'><br><span style='background:white'>Professional Land Surveyor</span><br><span style='background:white'>Tel : 082-773 4868</span></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><br></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><a href="mailto:chris@kirchhoffsurveyors.co.za" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;background:white'>chris@kirchhoffsurveyors.co.za</span></a></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><br></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><a href="http://www.kirchhoffsurveyors.co.za/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;background:white'>www.kirchhoffsurveyors.co.za</span></a></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><br><br></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#C45911;background:white'>We believe good spatial information leads to superior planning, diminished project risks, improved feasibility assessments and efficient resource utilisation.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> Africa [<a href="mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Aslam Parker<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 July 2016 08:38 AM<br><b>To:</b> Africa local chapter discussions <<a href="mailto:africa@lists.osgeo.org">africa@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] Municipal boundary demarcation</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Dear Colleagues</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>The Municipal Demarcation Board <a href="http://www.demarcation.org.za/"><span style='color:windowtext'>http://www.demarcation.org.za/</span></a> is the only authoritative source of Demarcation data in South Africa</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>The Board’s mandate derives from:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>The Constitution Of The Republic Of South Africa, 1996 (Act No 108 Of 1996). </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>The Board is mandated in terms of section 155(3)(b) to determine municipal Boundaries independently. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Local Government: Municipal Demarcation Act, 1998 (Act No 27 Of 1998)</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>The latest <b>boundary data (shapefiles)</b> can be downloaded from <a href="http://www.demarcation.org.za/index.php/downloads/boundary-data">http://www.demarcation.org.za/index.php/downloads/boundary-data</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>We are also encouraged to carefully scrutinise the Section 21 of the Local Government: Municipal Demarcation Act 27 of 1998 the Municipal Demarcation Board which graphically shows re-determined the municipal boundaries. In most cases the boundary changes seems small and insignificant, but can have significant socio-political, as well as planning implications. <a href="http://www.demarcation.org.za/site/?page_id=14588">http://www.demarcation.org.za/site/?page_id=14588</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>A Good example :</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>“ In terms of Section 21 of the Local Government: Municipal Demarcation Act 27 of 1998 the Municipal Demarcation Board has re-determined the municipal boundaries of Mnquma Local Municipality (EC122) and Mbhashe Local M unicipality (EC121) , by excluding the Administrative areas of Mhlahlana, Nkonkwana,KwaMente, and KwaNkanga from the municipal area of Mnquma Local Municipality (EC122), and by including them into the municipal area of Mbhashe Local M unicipality (EC121).”</span><span lang=EN-ZA style='color:windowtext'> The example map can be accessed at </span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><a href="http://www.demarcation.org.za/index.php/municipal-boundaries/section-21-maps-and-notices/ec-sec21-dems/1104-dem4037-bpfc-sec21/file">http://www.demarcation.org.za/index.php/municipal-boundaries/section-21-maps-and-notices/ec-sec21-dems/1104-dem4037-bpfc-sec21/file</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Aslam Parker | Director: Geo-spatial Information and Professional Support |Chief Directorate: National Geo-spatial Information | Department of Rural Development and Land Reform | </span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:14.0pt'><a href="http://www.ngi.gov.za/"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>www.ngi.gov.za</span></a></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>|</span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#EC7600'> </span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Cape Town|</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#EC7600'>Tel</span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> +27 21 658 4302|</span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#EC7600'> Fax </span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>+27 21 689 1351| </span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#EC7600'>Mobile</span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'> 082 331 8501| <a href="mailto:aslam.parker@drdlr.gov.za">aslam.parker@drdlr.gov.za</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=imprintuniqueid><span lang=EN-ZA> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=imprintuniqueid><span lang=EN-ZA><img border=0 width=800 height=200 style='width:8.3333in;height:2.0833in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image001.jpg@01D1E298.EE7F6DD0"></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=imprintuniqueid><span lang=EN-ZA> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> Africa [<a href="mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lydia du Toit<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 July 2016 07:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> Africa local chapter discussions<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] Municipal boundary demarcation</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt'>Hi Chris, </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt'>Contact the Demarcation Board, or download from their website.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt'>They have the 2011 and 2016 boundaries available.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt'>Lydia Du Toit (Pr GISc)<br>Mobile: 0832713158<br>Email: <a href="mailto:Lydiadt@mweb.co.za">Lydiadt@mweb.co.za</a> or</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'> <a href="mailto:chris@kirchhoffsurveyors.co.za" title="chris@kirchhoffsurveyors.co.za">Chris Kirchhoff</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>Sent:</span></b><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'> Wednesday, July 20, 2016 5:41 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>To:</span></b><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'> <a href="mailto:africa@lists.osgeo.org" title="africa@lists.osgeo.org">'Africa local chapter discussions'</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:whitesmoke'><b><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'>Subject:</span></b><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:navy'> [OSGeo Africa] Municipal boundary demarcation</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Hi</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Is there a formal/ legal source of municipal boundary positions especially for boundary between Johannesburg and Tshwane municipalities </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>Chris</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222;background:white'>……………………………………...</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#C45911;background:white'>Chris Kirchhoff</span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#C45911'><br><span style='background:white'>Professional Land Surveyor</span><br><span style='background:white'>Tel : 082-773 4868</span></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><br></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><a href="mailto:chris@kirchhoffsurveyors.co.za" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;background:white'>chris@kirchhoffsurveyors.co.za</span></a></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><br></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'><a href="http://www.kirchhoffsurveyors.co.za/" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;background:white'>www.kirchhoffsurveyors.co.za</span></a></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><br><br></span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#C45911;background:white'>We believe good spatial information leads to superior planning, diminished project risks, improved feasibility assessments and efficient resource utilisation.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext'> Africa [<a href="mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gavin Fleming<br><b>Sent:</b> 19 July 2016 11:13 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:africa@lists.osgeo.org">africa@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] QGIS splitting lines at intersections</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA>On 19/07/2016 11:05, Zoltan wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA>Hi Gavin,<br>I did see the one using "another layer", but that is problematic as when one is digitising (say) a town road network you would want to honour the straightness of the roads and then intersect them afterwards.</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-ZA>If you're doing it while digitising I would rather set up snapping perfectly then node intersections while digitising. As simple as stopping a line and starting a new one instead of just clicking a vertex at an intersection. </span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA>Hence "popping out" to other facilities just messes up your work-flow.<br><br>Will look at the scripting options - for now this is just a training exercise in teaching digitising principals.<br><br>Thanks & keep well,<br>Zoltan</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA>------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in'><img border=0 width=150 height=118 style='width:1.5625in;height:1.2291in' id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image002.jpg@01D1E298.EE7F6DD0" alt="Image removed by sender."></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA>Gavin Fleming - Joint MD - PrGISc [PGP1234]</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA>Visit <a href="http://kartoza.com/" target="_blank">http://kartoza.com</a> to find out about open source:<br>* Desktop GIS programming services<br>* Geospatial web development</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA>* GIS Training</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA>* Consulting Services</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA>Skype: phlemingo</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA>Office: +27(0)878092702</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA><a href="http://w3w.co/moats.romance.tornado" target="_blank"><span style='border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=20 height=20 style='width:.2083in;height:.2083in' id="_x0000_i1027" src="cid:image003.jpg@01D1E298.EE7F6DD0" alt="Image removed by sender."></span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA>Kartoza = Linfiniti </span><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Cambria Math",serif'>∪</span><span lang=EN-ZA> Afrispatial</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-ZA style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>Africa mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Africa@lists.osgeo.org">Africa@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>You can UNSUBSCRIBE at <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/africa">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/africa</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Africa mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:Africa@lists.osgeo.org">Africa@lists.osgeo.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>You can UNSUBSCRIBE at <a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/africa">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/africa</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>