<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">The HartRAO educational centre shows indigenous constellations (if that’s what you mean by space maps)<div class=""> </div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 04 Jul 2017, at 14:36, Douglas Anderson <<a href="mailto:djandersonza@gmail.com" class="">djandersonza@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:times new roman,serif">Aaah, hmm, the problem there is that prior to colonialism indigenous people were illiterate. Apart from rock paintings and engravings I know of no attempt at drawing maps. Maybe some-one at the Iziko Museum or UCT archaeological department may assist you? </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">Yours Sincerely</div>
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<br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 July 2017 at 13:31, Aslam Parker <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:Aslam.Parker@drdlr.gov.za" target="_blank" class="">Aslam.Parker@drdlr.gov.za</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-233292155208052506WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">Thank you very much Doug, I appreciate the information<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">I am actually looking for evidence of maps, or depiction of space/geography by indigenous people.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class=""><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" class=""> Africa [mailto:<a href="mailto:africa-bounces@lists" class="">africa-bounces@lists</a>.<wbr class=""><a href="http://osgeo.org/" class="">osgeo.org</a>]
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<b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] Maps of sub-saharan African cartography<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">There is this map showing the distribution of the Khoi and San peoples in the Cape during the early stages of colonization and exploration<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">A very interesting 'What if' map can be found here<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><a class="">http://bigthink.com/strange-<wbr class="">maps/africa-uncolonized</a><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Showing what Africa may've looked like had colonization by European countries not occurred, but it is speculative as Islamic colonization and indigenous colonization would alter this map quite considerably.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On 4 July 2017 at 10:34, Chris Berens <<a class="">chris@mapland.co.za</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Aslam, the closest I have come to an indigenous map is a verbal route map or song-line that I heard in 2009 which described a route taken by herders from Pella in the northern Cape as they went from waterhole to waterhole. I was able
to follow the route during the recitation using your 1:250,000 map which had enough named points in common. Unfortunately we did not have a chance to record the audio/video. The herding route (described/sung by Oom Paul Waterboer in Pella) predated the shift
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On 4 July 2017 at 08:07, Aslam Parker <<a class="">Aslam.Parker@drdlr.gov.za</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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African indigenous communities, specifically in Southern Africa.</span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class=""> </span><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" class="">Thanks
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