<div dir="ltr">That's fascinating and somewhat worrying. From my understanding of the discussion:<div><br></div><div>1. There is no legally mandated body that is the custodian of the provincial boundaries.</div><div>2. The MDB is the de facto custodian since provinces are defined in terms of the sum of a number of boundaries proposed by the MDB according to schedule 1A of the constitution.</div><div>3. The official boundaries are gazetted but are completely useless in practice due to their low resolution.</div><div>4. In lieu of detailed gazetted boundaries, It is generally accepted that the shapefiles on the MDB site are the canonical source of municipal definitions but this isn't legislated anywhere.</div><div>5. I suspect that there isn't an explicit auditable data governance process that the MDB uses when uploading shapefiles to their website. If that is the case then anyone who has access to the website, say a web developer, has the power to change municipal, and by extension, provincial boundaries.</div><div><br></div><div>Is this correct?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:08 PM Adrian Frith <<a href="mailto:adrian@adrianfrith.com">adrian@adrianfrith.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">My understanding is yes, from a strictly legal perspective, the printed pages in GN1998/2005[1] and GN1490/2008[2] define the boundaries of our provinces. In practise I think everyone accepts that the shapefiles the MDB publishes are definitive for municipal boundaries and therefore for provincial boundaries as well.<div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notice_1998_of_2005.djvu" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notice_1998_of_2005.djvu</a></div><div>[2] <a href="https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notice_1490_of_2008.djvu" target="_blank">https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Notice_1490_of_2008.djvu</a></div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 16:40 Adi Eyal <<a href="mailto:adi@openup.org.za" target="_blank">adi@openup.org.za</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">So, are we relying on printed pages in the gazettes to define the boundaries of our municipalities, districts and provinces? Are the shapefiles on the MDB website the definitive source?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:57 PM Adrian Frith <<a href="mailto:adrian@adrianfrith.com" target="_blank">adrian@adrianfrith.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Adi,<div><br></div><div>The constitution (Schedule 1A) defines the provinces by reference to maps of the district and metro municipalities, which were published in the Gov Gazette by the Municipal Demarcation Board. So the closest thing to an official custodian would be the MDB and its shapefile of district municipalities at <a href="http://www.demarcation.org.za/site/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2016-Boundaries-District.zip" target="_blank">http://www.demarcation.org.za/site/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/2016-Boundaries-District.zip</a> from which you can assemble the provinces.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Adrian<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, 4 Oct 2018 at 14:18 Adi Eyal <<a href="mailto:adi@openup.org.za" target="_blank">adi@openup.org.za</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi All<div><br></div><div>Who is the official custodian of the provincial boundary data?</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Adi<br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="m_-2871055830957353896m_4791677828658048077m_-516256315446783179m_4745731920571382967gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div>Adi Eyal<br>Director<br>OpenUp<br>Promoting informed decision-making<br><br>phone: <a href="tel:+27%2078%20014%202469" value="+27780142469" target="_blank">+27 78 014 2469</a><br>skype: adieyalcas<br>linkedin: <a href="http://za.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Adi/Eyal" target="_blank">http://za.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Adi/Eyal</a><br>web: <a href="http://www.openup.org.za" target="_blank">http://www.openup.org.za</a><br>twitter: @soapsudtycoon<br><br>Follow us on twitter at @OpenUpSA<br>Sign up for Naked Data, our weekly round-up of what's happening<br>locally and internationally in data journalism and data visualisation.<br>Register here: <a href="https://openup.org.za/nakeddata.html" target="_blank">https://openup.org.za/nakeddata.html</a></div><div>Also check out our data storytelling short courses: <a href="https://openup.org.za/courses.html" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);font-size:12.8px" target="_blank">https://openup.org.za/trainup/</a><br></div></div></div></div></div>
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