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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Zoltan, contact me, I may have what you require.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>riaanb_at_iafrica_com<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>R<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Africa <africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Zoltan<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 17 September 2021 15:48<br><b>To:</b> africa@lists.osgeo.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] Looking for route names for Northern Cape roads (or all of RSA)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi Antony,<br>Hope you are well - it's been a while since we chatted.<br><br>I meant Road as in Route names/numbers, like D-roads, R-etc and not Street names as in municipal. (My bad - I should have been more explicit)<br>OSM too does not have the detail level I want - see secondary and other roads in the Dibeng area, up to Botswana border, and about 100Km east of Dibeng.<br>The only ones I have are R31, R372 and R380 and would like route numbers for the larger secondary roads (and not the tiny 'rural/local roads) in this area of the NC.<br><br>Thanks for your comments.<br>Kind regards,<br>Zoltan<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 2021-09-17 15:27, Antony Cooper wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dear Zoltan</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The naming of streets is a municipal function, so it is quite likely that there is no official data set of street names. Further, street names are also not dealt with by the South African Geographical Names Council (SAGNC).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>See: <a href="https://www.westerncape.gov.za/other/2011/4/handbook_on_geographical_names.pdf">https://www.westerncape.gov.za/other/2011/4/handbook_on_geographical_names.pdf</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So, your best option is something like OSM for aggregated street names, though these are likely to be added on an ad hoc basis, for selected municipalities with motivated OSM contributors and reasonable geospatial data sets available on municipal web sites.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Alternatively, you can try one of the commercial suppliers of address data, but expect to pay a few million for the whole country.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Antony</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Africa <a href="mailto:africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org"><africa-bounces@lists.osgeo.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob Anderson<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 17 September 2021 15:05<br><b>To:</b> Africa local chapter discussions <a href="mailto:africa@lists.osgeo.org"><africa@lists.osgeo.org></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] Looking for route names for Northern Cape roads (or all of RSA)</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 align=left width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td style='background:#A6A6A6;padding:5.25pt 1.5pt 5.25pt 1.5pt'></td><td width="100%" style='width:100.0%;background:#EAEAEA;padding:5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt 11.25pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-element:frame;mso-element-frame-hspace:2.25pt;mso-element-wrap:around;mso-element-anchor-vertical:paragraph;mso-element-anchor-horizontal:column;mso-height-rule:exactly'><span style='font-size:9.0pt;color:black'>You don't often get email from <a href="mailto:roband123@gmail.com">roband123@gmail.com</a>. <a href="http://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification">Learn why this is important</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td><td width=75 style='width:56.25pt;background:#EAEAEA;padding:5.25pt 3.75pt 5.25pt 3.75pt;align:left'></td></tr></table><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hi Zoltan, </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Have you looked at Open Street Map?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The version I have seems to have the route number added.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Rob<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 9:08 AM Zoltan <<a href="mailto:zoltans@geograph.co.za">zoltans@geograph.co.za</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>Hi All,<br>I have checked the NGI portal topo dataset, and while it does have some <br>Route names (R38 etc), it does not have the small road names.<br><br>Can anyone please guide me as to where I can download these from?<br><br>Thanks and regards,<br>Zoltan<br><br><br>-- <br><br>=============================================<br>Zoltan Szecsei GPrGISc 0031<br>Geograph (Pty) Ltd.<br>GIS and Photogrammetric Services<br><br>Cape Town, South Africa.<br><br>Mobile: +27-83-6004028 (Signal, not WhatsApp)<br><a href="http://pta-smg3.csir.co.za:32224/?dmVyPTEuMDAxJiY1ZjRkYjkwMWFjMDQ5NWRhMj02MTQ0OTJDNV81MjQ4MF8xNTk1OF8xJiY3NzI5YTI1NDlmNGIxOWY9MTMzMyYmdXJsPWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZ3d3clMkVnZW9ncmFwaCUyRWNvJTJFemE=" target="_blank">www.geograph.co.za</a><br>=============================================<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Africa mailing list<br><a 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