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Hi Antony,<br>
Hope you are well - it's been a while since we chatted.<br>
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I meant Road as in Route names/numbers, like D-roads, R-etc and not
Street names as in municipal. (My bad - I should have been more
explicit)<br>
OSM too does not have the detail level I want - see secondary and
other roads in the Dibeng area, up to Botswana border, and about
100Km east of Dibeng.<br>
The only ones I have are R31, R372 and R380 and would like route
numbers for the larger secondary roads (and not the tiny
'rural/local roads) in this area of the NC.<br>
<br>
Thanks for your comments.<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Zoltan<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2021-09-17 15:27, Antony Cooper
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Dear
Zoltan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
naming of streets is a municipal function, so it is quite
likely that there is no official data set of street names.
Further, street names are also not dealt with by the South
African Geographical Names Council (SAGNC).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">See:
<a
href="https://www.westerncape.gov.za/other/2011/4/handbook_on_geographical_names.pdf"
moz-do-not-send="true">
https://www.westerncape.gov.za/other/2011/4/handbook_on_geographical_names.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So,
your best option is something like OSM for aggregated street
names, though these are likely to be added on an ad hoc
basis, for selected municipalities with motivated OSM
contributors and reasonable geospatial data sets available
on municipal web sites.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Alternatively,
you can try one of the commercial suppliers of address data,
but expect to pay a few million for the whole country.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Antony<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob Anderson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 17 September 2021 15:05<br>
<b>To:</b> Africa local chapter discussions
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [OSGeo Africa] Looking for route
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Hi Zoltan, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Have you looked at Open Street Map?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The version I have seems to have the
route number added.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rob<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Sep 17, 2021 at 9:08 AM
Zoltan <<a href="mailto:zoltans@geograph.co.za"
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<br>
I have checked the NGI portal topo dataset, and while it
does have some <br>
Route names (R38 etc), it does not have the small road
names.<br>
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Can anyone please guide me as to where I can download
these from?<br>
<br>
Thanks and regards,<br>
Zoltan<br>
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