<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Cameron,</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Agreed. </font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I'd prefer the discussions to be on
this list where possible.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Bruce</font>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Marie-Claire Henry <MHenry@scvb.com.au>,
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif">[Aust-NZ] Bid strategy for '09 FOSS4G
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<br><font size=2><tt>I've been putting thought into how open Aust-NZ should
be in building <br>
its FOSS4G '09 bid.<br>
<br>
Advantages of being secretive:<br>
* Other cities don't get our ideas and copy them.<br>
* Other cities don't see our price and undercut us by a small margin.<br>
* Other cities see our ideas and counter them.<br>
<br>
Advantages of being open:<br>
* We visibly demonstrate to the selectors that we have a powerful <br>
community behind our bid.<br>
* If our good ideas are copied, then OSGeo as a whole benefits.<br>
* Openness is a fundamental principle of OSGeo and Open Source in <br>
general and should be valued very highly by selectors.<br>
* Consequently, other cities are likely to follow our lead and develop
<br>
an Open bidding process, which will bring us all back to a level playing
<br>
field.<br>
<br>
So I propose:<br>
1. We should be open about all organisational details, (where, who, <br>
what, dates, etc).<br>
2. We should be secretive about specific prices until bid is put in. <br>
Pricing can be discussed openly in general terms, but not the final details.<br>
<br>
Technically, I see us using a public email list for most discussions <br>
(this list will probably do the trick), a private list for sensitive <br>
discussions, and a public and private wiki to collaboratively build our
<br>
documentation and thoughts.<br>
<br>
I'm interested to hear others thoughts on this matter (international <br>
lurkers are welcome to chime in - just identify yourself as outside <br>
Australia/New Zealand).<br>
<br>
Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
> To bring people up to date on FOSS4G hosting:<br>
><br>
> Tim and I have been working with the The Sydney Convention and <br>
> Visitors Bureau (SCVB) to put together a bid to host the FOSS4G <br>
> conference in Australia.<br>
><br>
> We decided that we were not ready to put in a good bid for 2008, but
<br>
> put in a bid for 2009, which will hopefully improve our chances for
2009.<br>
><br>
> We had a meeting last Friday with Marie-Claire Henry and Josh Roberts
<br>
> from SCVB to work out our next steps and this is what we have decided
<br>
> so far:<br>
><br>
> 1. Marie-Claire will be our SCVB contact who will help us through
the <br>
> process (free of charge - the SVCB is sponsored by various government
<br>
> tourist departments).<br>
><br>
> 2. We'd like to engage a wider group of people to help guide SCVB.
Tim <br>
> should be setting up an email list for interested people to join.
We <br>
> would like to be very open in our decisions, but at the same time
we <br>
> will need to hide some details from our competitors. So the list will
<br>
> be available for Australia/NZ residents who show an interest in the
<br>
> event.<br>
><br>
> 3. Marie-Claire has noted:<br>
> 3.1 We should engage a Convension Organisor soon. She is going to
get <br>
> a list of Organisors which we can pick from. Please help us with this,
<br>
> we will probably be picking in the next few weeks.<br>
> 3.2 For the size of the conference, we need to secure a venue early.
<br>
> 18 months in advance is typical. So we should push OSGeo to award
the <br>
> conference earlier that 1 year in advance.<br>
> 3.3 We should talk up Sydney at FOSS4G this year. Tim will be at <br>
> FOSS4G, anyone else able to help?<br>
><br>
> 4. We need to start building a network of interested partners. Tim
has <br>
> noted that Linux Australia has already shown interest which is useful
<br>
> since they have experience and resources in holding conferences.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Tim Bowden wrote:<br>
>> Now that bidding for the '08 FOSS4G conference has been decided
(South<br>
>> Africa for those who were unaware) it's time to get our act together
for<br>
>> bidding for the '09 conf.<br>
>><br>
>> Holding the FOSS4G conference here in our region in '09 would
provide a<br>
>> huge boost to the cause of open source GIS in Australia, New Zealand
and<br>
>> the wider South East Asian region. If we are to win the
conf, we need<br>
>> to put together a top notch bid, so I'd like to invite everyone<br>
>> interested to join in forming a conf bidding team to work on the<br>
>> proposal. I'm hoping the decision for the '09 conf will
be made about<br>
>> March or April next year, so we don't have too long to put things<br>
>> together.<br>
>><br>
>> I'd especially like to see some NZ'ers involved as the conf needs
to<br>
>> answer the needs and interests from both sides of the Tasman.<br>
>><br>
>> Regards,<br>
>> Tim Bowden<br>
>><br>
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>><br>
>> <br>
><br>
><br>
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-- <br>
Cameron Shorter<br>
Systems Architect, http://lisasoft.com.au<br>
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050<br>
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254<br>
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