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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi Brent,</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">This is a great idea, particularly for
FOSS4G-2009.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Has Brendan been approached over the
licensing?</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Assuming that the OK is given, how could
we keep the data current? I'm assuming that it is under active maintenance.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">How far off is the NZ Government from
hosting this data themselves via OGC Web Services? This may be a
better option in the longer term.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Bruce Bannerman</font>
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--- shoaib <saburq@gmail.com> wrote:<br>
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> Brent, thanks for taking the initiative on this<br>
> <br>
> If we come up a minimum set of layers with an open licence for NZ
then<br>
> we can feed that info back to OSM as well. I think they would be<br>
> interested in extending their data model to support additional layers.<br>
> <br>
> For example there is talk of moving to a topological model so that<br>
> routing using OSM data becomes possible<br>
> (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Routing).<br>
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Hi Shoaib (et al),<br>
<br>
At present, I understand that Gavin Treadgold, who is very active in NZ
in the<br>
GPS arena, and is also involved with Sahana development, is working with
OSM<br>
regarding the bulk loading of the NZ road centreline data.<br>
<br>
<br>
Regarding my suggestion, the range of layers available, and the presence
of<br>
some raster data susggest to me that a more traditional GIS approach for<br>
managing & overlaying these datasets is more appropriate than trying
to fit<br>
things into OSM. Although, I guess if OSM data is WMS/WFS available, then
some<br>
vector data could me managed there & still accessed from another application,<br>
but I don't see that happening in the short term.<br>
<br>
> There is also an example of contours being added to OSM.<br>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gravitystorm/2273971905/in/photostream/<br>
> <br>
> What would be best way to start? Perhaps a page on the Aus-NZ chapter<br>
> wiki listing layers and links to data?<br>
<br>
One issue; despite much of the data being available under a pretty open<br>
licence, it is not generally available online, either for download or via
a web<br>
mapping application. Which is one reason that an initiative like this is<br>
viable.<br>
<br>
Anyway, such links are not really available, despite the data being freely<br>
redistributable. This is the main reason I suggested OSGO may be interested
in<br>
hosting this data as an example of a national free dataset made available
via<br>
FOSS software. The small geographic size of New Zealand make such datasets
more<br>
manageble than many other countries, which was also a consideration. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Regarding licencing, as mentioned on the geodata list:<br>
<br>
see<br>
http://www.linz.govt.nz/docs/topography/topographicdata/topodtabase/licence-agreement-1.pdf<br>
<br>
This is for the raw data as supplied by the appropriate government body.
Once<br>
purchased (or otherwise obtained), as described in clauses 4-7 in the above<br>
document, the data can be freely copied, modified & on-supplied, with
a couple<br>
of provisos (basically noting that crown copyright is applicable to the<br>
original data & a disclaimerfor errors & omissions waiving any
liabilities).<br>
<br>
This licence covers the road, property & topographic data. <br>
<br>
So, we can either buy a copy ourselves (a few hundred $$) or find a friendly<br>
agency or business who is prepared to pass on a copy of the data thay have<br>
obtained. At present, a few members of the Aust-NZ OSGEO chapter who have<br>
access to copies of these data are following this up, to see what can be
made<br>
available at no cost.<br>
<br>
Other data is available elsewhere, such as census & electoral data
from<br>
Statistics New Zealand. See http://www.stats.govt.nz/copyright.htm,<br>
where it states that generally data supplied from them can be freely<br>
redistributed but should acknowledge them as the source (but note that
privacy<br>
concerns apply to some census data).<br>
<br>
There are other layers which can probably be made available, maritime<br>
boundaries, parks & reserves, etc, but such layers are somewhat peripheral
&<br>
can be followed up once the main datasets are sorted out. Indeed, having
such a<br>
system available online for the core data may help stimulate various bodies<br>
into making other data available.<br>
<br>
I had intended to progress this concept further on the Aust-NZ list before<br>
introducing it to a wider group (including geodata), to work through licencing<br>
and data supply issues, but it spread faster than I'd planned :-)<br>
<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Brent Wood<br>
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