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<body><div>Occasional regional get-togethers under the banner of Aust-NZ OSGeo are the norm in Australia. Could proceed in that manner.<br></div>
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<div>Cheers,<br></div>
<div>Byron</div>
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<div>On Wed, Aug 14, 2013, at 08:38 AM, Brent Wood wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote type="cite"><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>Hi Tim,<br></div>
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<div>I agree with Hamish.<br></div>
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<div>We already have an OSGEO chapter that encompasses NZ, we have the NZOSS, reasonably active NZ GIS & GPS online groups (incl OSM support & dvpt), a very active biodata group (Dataversity) all with some level of Open Source focus & support. The new ECO/WWF Moodle website for tutorial/training resources for environmental data management & analysis also has a strong Open Source GIS focus, but is not built around OSGEO.<br></div>
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<div>More fragmentation I think would be divisive rather than productive.<br></div>
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<div>I'd sooner see an existing NZ group strengthened by more activity & members instead. As a long time GMT user (as well as several OSGEO tools) & a novice R user, I also suggest that running such a group as an "OSGEO chapter" is unecessarily restrictive, and that if such a
 group is established, it should be formed within and help grow existing NZ initiatives rather than compete with them for members, time & resources.<br></div>
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<div>For this reason, I do not support & will not join the proposed group, as I think it would be detrimental to the overall progress of Open Source GIS in NZ, quite apart from not wanting to add yet another membership to my list, which is already long enough that I can't do most groups justice. I believe the NZ Open Source & GIS communities needs to pull together more, not fragment even further.<br></div>
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<div>Just my opinion.... if there are enough interested people to form an active chapter, I still wish you well, & hope we can work together on shared goals in future.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:small"> <b><b>From:</b></b> Hamish <hamish_b@yahoo.com></span></span><br></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:small"> <b><b>To:</b></b> "heuert@landcareresearch.co.nz" <heuert@landcareresearch.co.nz>; Aust NZ Aus Geo List <aust-nz@lists.osgeo.org> </span></span><br></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:small"> <b><b>Sent:</b></b> Tuesday, August 13, 2013 5:22 PM</span></span><br></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:small"> <b><b>Subject:</b></b> Re: [Aust-NZ] Upcoming OSGeo Chapter in the Central North Island </span></span> <br></div>
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<div><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div>Hi Tim,<br></div>
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<div>why not just run it under the guise of the greater aust-nz chapter? <span>unneccessary </span><span><span>bureaucratic</span></span> overhead takes time away from coding :)<br></div>
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<div>regards,<br></div>
<div>Hamish<br></div>
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<blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div style="font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;"><div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1">  <span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:small"> <b><b>From:</b></b> Tim-<span>Hinnerk</span> <span>Heuer</span>
 <heuert@landcareresearch.co.nz></span></span><br></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:small"> <b><b>To:</b></b> Aust NZ Aus Geo List <aust-nz@lists.osgeo.org> </span></span><br></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:small"> <b><b>Sent:</b></b> Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:57 PM</span></span><br></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:small"> <b><b>Subject:</b></b> [Aust-NZ] Upcoming OSGeo Chapter in the Central North Island </span></span> <br></div>
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<div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><b style="font-weight:normal;"><div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px">Hi,</span></span></span></span><br></div>
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<span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px"></span></span></span></span>
<div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px">I'm Tim-<span>Hinnerk</span> <span>Heuer</span>, a geo web developer
 working at <span>Landcare</span> Research in Palmerston North. The Informatics group at <span>Landcare</span> Research has been using open source geo-software for quite a while and we know there are other people in the local region with an interest in such software.
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<span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px"></span></span></span></span>
<div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px">We have come up with the idea of forming
 an informal group in Palmerston North - or more specifically the lower North Island - to exchange ideas and encourage collaboration on <span>geospatial</span> data and <span>geospatial</span> open source software. One possibility is that this group becomes an OSGeo chapter (see
</span></span></span></span><a target="_blank" href="http://www.osgeo.org/" style="text-decoration:none;"><span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px">http://www.osgeo.org/</span></span></span></a><span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px">).</span></span></span></span><br></div>
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<span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px"></span></span></span></span>
<div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px">At the moment, this initiative is driven
 by myself and my colleague Pierre <span>Roudier</span>, who is working on soil data using open source software (R, <span>GDAL</span>/<span>OGR</span>, <span>QGIS</span>, GRASS <span>GIS</span>). Anybody wanting to join the effort is obviously more than welcome!</span></span></span></span><br></div>
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<span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px"></span></span></span></span>
<div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px">We are planning a meeting to <span>gauge</span> interest
 in forming such a group. It is set to take place at the Village Inn Kitchen in <span>Hokowhitu</span>, Palmerston North, from 5.30pm onwards, on Wednesday 28st August. (We chose this venue because it has high-speed Internet access and one idea we have is to invite people
 from around New <span>Zealand</span> or even the world to join us via video conference to talk about their software and/or how they are using open source <span>geospatial</span> software).</span></span></span></span><br></div>
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<span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px"></span></span></span></span>
<div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px">A couple of us are attending FOSS4G 2013
 in the UK in mid September and, if there is support for the idea of forming a chapter, we would raise it with the OSGeo Board then.
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<span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px"></span></span></span></span>
<div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px">We are looking forward to seeing you at the
 Village Inn Kitchen in <span>Hokowhitu</span>, Palmerston North on the 28<span>th</span> August. Drop us an email if you think you will come so we can get an idea of numbers.</span></span></span></span><br></div>
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<div dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.15;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;"><span class="highlight" style="background-color: transparent"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial"><span class="size" style="font-size:15px">Kind regards,</span></span></span></span><br></div>
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