<div dir="ltr"><div><div>+1<br><br></div>While the (Federal Government) AGIMO Policy is a good reference, I doubt that it can be enforced on a State Government.<br><br></div>Bruce<br><div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-size:14px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span><div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:11pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Peter Barrs <<a href="mailto:peter.barrs@data-arterial.net" target="_blank">peter.barrs@data-arterial.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Organization: </span> Data Arterial Pty Ltd<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span> "<a href="mailto:peter.barrs@data-arterial.net" target="_blank">peter.barrs@data-arterial.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:peter.barrs@data-arterial.net" target="_blank">peter.barrs@data-arterial.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Wednesday, 19 November 2014 8:45<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:Aust-NZ@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Aust-NZ@lists.osgeo.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:Aust-NZ@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Aust-NZ@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [Aust-NZ] NSW Government Procurement actively discourages use of Open Source<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT:#b5c4df 5 solid;PADDING:0 0 0 5;MARGIN:0 0 0 5"><div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div>+1<br><br>
Cameron, I hope you are able to obtain a rationale from NSW Finance - presumably it relates to 23.2 a/b, which in themselves are not inhibitory of open source.<br><br>
As previously remarked, it seems a degree of ignorance is apparent.<br><br>
Peter Barrs<br>
Data Arterial Pty Ltd<br><br>
On 19/11/2014 5:53 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite">OSGeo Aust-NZ,<br>
During a recent NSW tendering process (for a spatial software system), we have discovered that NSW Government purchasing guidelines actively discourage use of Open Source Software.<br><br>
I propose that the following email is sent on behalf of OSGeo Aust/NZ. Any comments, votes for or against?<br>
Vote from me: +1 Cameron Shorter<br><br>
From: President of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation - Australian/New Zealand Chapter<br>
To: <a href="mailto:nswbuy@finance.nsw.gov.au" target="_blank">
nswbuy@finance.nsw.gov.au</a><br>
CC: <a href="mailto:Aust-NZ@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">
Aust-NZ@lists.osgeo.org</a><br><br>
To NSW Procurement Team,<br><br>
We, the Australian and New Zealand chapter of the Open Source Geospatial Foundation, are concerned that NSW Procurement guidelines about Open Source Software should be changed.<br>
The guidelines:<br>
* Inaccurately imply Proprietary Software is less risky than Open Source [1],<br>
* Unfairly discriminate against Australian Open Source Software solutions and businesses [1],<br>
* Conflict with Australian government policy which directly mandate that Open Source and Proprietary Software should be considered equally. [2]<br>
* Increases the cost of NSW Government IT purchases by actively discouraging use of Open Source.<br><br>
Could the NSW Procurement Team please review the current Open Source statement, assess the appropriateness of updating to Australian Government Policy statements related to Open Source, and respond with your assessment.<br><br><br><b>Reference 1:</b><br><br>
The NSW IT procurement framework (version 3.1) specifically discourses use of Open Source software with Major Project System Integration Services.<br><br><i>23 Open Source Software </i><i><br></i><i>23.1 The Contractor must ensure that: </i><i><br></i><i>(a) none of the Deliverables comprise Open Source Software; and </i><i><br></i><i>(b) it does not insert any Open Source Software into the Customer Environment, except to the extent otherwise approved by the Customer in writing.
</i><i><br></i><i>23.2 Where the Customer gives its approval in relation to the use of any Open Source Software
</i><i><br></i><i>under clause 23.1: </i><i><br></i><i>(a) the Contractor must ensure that the use of that Open Source Software will not result in an obligation to disclose, license or otherwise make available any part of the Customer Environment or any of the Customer’sConfidential Information to any third
party; and </i><i><br></i><i>(b) the use of that Open Source Software will not in any way diminish the Contractor’s obligations under the Contract, including without limitation in relation to any warranties, indemnities or any provisions dealing with the licensing or assignment
of Intellectual Property. </i><br><br><a href="https://www.procurepoint.nsw.gov.au/before-you-supply/standard-procurement-contract-templates/procure-it-framework-version-31" target="_blank">https://www.procurepoint.nsw.gov.au/before-you-supply/standard-procurement-contract-templates/procure-it-framework-version-31</a><br>
See: Module 13A Major project systems integration services<br><br><b>Reference 2:</b><br>
Australian Government Policy on Open Source Software:<br><br><i>Principle 1: Australian Government ICT procurement processes must actively and fairly consider all types of available software.</i><i><br></i><i>Australian Government agencies must actively and fairly consider all types of available software (including but not limited to open source software and proprietary software) through their ICT procurement processes. It is recognised there may be areas
where open source software is not yet available for consideration. Procurement decisions must be made based on value for money. Procurement decisions should take into account
</i><i><br></i><i>whole-of-life costs, capability, security, scalability, transferability, support and manageability requirements.</i><i><br></i><i>For a covered procurement (over $80K), agencies are required to include in their procurement plan that open source software will be considered equally alongside proprietary software. Agencies will be required to insert a statement into any Request for
Tender that they will consider open source software equally alongside proprietary software. Tender responses will be evaluated under the normal requirements of the Commonwealth Procurement Guidelines. For a non-covered procurement (below $80K), agencies are
required to document all key decisions, as required by the Commonwealth Procurement Guidelines. This includes how they considered open source software suppliers when selecting suppliers to respond to the Select Tender or Request for Quotation.</i><i><br></i><br>
Australian Government Policy on Open Source Software, <a href="http://www.finance.gov.au/policy-guides-procurement/open-source-software/" target="_blank">
http://www.finance.gov.au/policy-guides-procurement/open-source-software/</a><br><br><br><pre cols="72">--
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