<div dir="ltr">Hi All<div><br></div><div>I think that, if we choose Melbourne, we can work with Jamila to help identify a venue. This sounds like a valuable service, and we should probably take it up. I don't think we need to outsource the a conference organiser, though.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br>Alex</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 24 Nov 2017 at 10:32 Ben Caradoc-Davies <<a href="mailto:ben@transient.nz">ben@transient.nz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Cameron,<br>
<br>
by my reading, Jamila is expressing interest in hosting *FOSS4G-AU*.<br>
This would be the stepping stone you recommend.<br>
<br>
Kind regards,<br>
Ben.<br>
<br>
On 24/11/17 07:54, Cameron Shorter wrote:<br>
> Jamila,<br>
><br>
> I don't believe Australia is ready to hold an international FOSS4G for<br>
> at least 2 years, and probably more. I believe we should not be<br>
> considered for an international FOSS4G until we have successfully run a<br>
> national (Aust/NZ) and then a regional (Asia/Pacific) FOSS4G, probably<br>
> starting with 50 to 100 delegates.<br>
><br>
> And for the first few years we should be looking to run an event at as<br>
> low a cost as possible - ideally getting a venue for free, or close to<br>
> free. (I expect that will be a tough ask for you).<br>
><br>
> I believe I say this with authority as I chaired the international<br>
> FOSS4G in 2009, and up to a couple of weeks ago had been on the<br>
> international FOSS4G committee since 2009.<br>
><br>
> So good to hear you interest, but I think you are significantly<br>
> premature in reaching out.<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 23/11/17 10:44 am, Jamila Javanshir wrote:<br>
>> Re: FOSS4G-ANZ<br>
>><br>
>> Dear All<br>
>><br>
>> Greeting from Melbourne Convention Bureau! We represent a partnership<br>
>> between Victorian Government, City of Melbourne and private enterprise<br>
>> and our role is to attract national and international meetings and<br>
>> conferences to Melbourne.<br>
>><br>
>> We are interested in a discussion about hosting FOSS4G-ANZ in<br>
>> Melbourne and what support you may require from our side should you<br>
>> decide to go ahead with it.<br>
>><br>
>> We have been working on the opportunity to bring the International<br>
>> FOSS4G Summit to Melbourne for a few years now, so would be happy to<br>
>> help.<br>
>><br>
>> With kind regards<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Jamila Javanshir<br>
>> Senior Business Development Manager, Inaugural Events<br>
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>><br>
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>> 1. Re: FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting<br>
>> (Cameron Shorter)<br>
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>> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2017 06:22:03 +1100<br>
>> From: Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> Subject: Re: [Aust-NZ] FOSS4G-ANZ? - Doodle pole for kickoff meeting<br>
>> Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:41aee04d-b1fb-f537-1292-83dc7bd759fb@gmail.com" target="_blank">41aee04d-b1fb-f537-1292-83dc7bd759fb@gmail.com</a>><br>
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>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> For those interested in being involved in a FOSS4G-ANZ conference for<br>
>> 2018, I've set up a Doodle pole for a kickoff meeting next week.<br>
>> Please let us know when you are available.<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://doodle.com/poll/s3vdegqcqrdbxq4w" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://doodle.com/poll/s3vdegqcqrdbxq4w</a><br>
>><br>
>> Meeting location: irc://<a href="http://freenode.net#osgeo" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">freenode.net#osgeo</a><br>
>><br>
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>><br>
>> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):<br>
>> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do we work<br>
>> together as a group?) -broadly scope the event, determine key details<br>
>> (what is it? when is it?)<br>
>> * How many days?<br>
>> * Venue type?<br>
>> * Target size?<br>
>> * Target cost?<br>
>> * Program?<br>
>> * What location? (how we select it)<br>
>> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times<br>
>> -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning<br>
>> process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders<br>
>> * Potential bodies to manage finances: SSSI, OSGeo, OSM State of the<br>
>> Map, other<br>
>> * Potential champions: LINZ, GA, CSIRO,<br>
>> -begin spreading the word!<br>
>><br>
>> Agenda (extending John Bryan's agenda):<br>
>> -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement'<br>
>> -broadly scope the event<br>
>> * How many days?<br>
>> * Venue type?<br>
>> * Target size?<br>
>> * Target cost?<br>
>> * Program?<br>
>> * What location?<br>
>> -select communication forum(s): email list, wiki, meeting times<br>
>> -nominate and save the date -plot out a schedule for the planning<br>
>> process -identify, and begin engaging with, key stakeholders<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Re setting up FOSS4G conferences, the OSGeo Conference Committee has<br>
>> been building up a cookbook over the years. It is not complete, but is<br>
>> a starting point:<br>
>> <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook</a><br>
>><br>
>> Cheers, Cameron<br>
>><br>
>> On 22/11/17 9:19 pm, John Bryant wrote:<br>
>>> Hi all, I can see the below message on the online version of the<br>
>>> thread, but it didn't come through to my email. I see it was posted<br>
>>> early this morning, but I couldn't see it online until this evening.<br>
>>> In case I'm not the only one who didn't get it, I'll paste it here:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Apologies for the cross posting, but I figured it was worth making<br>
>>> sure a few key people/groups are aware of this discussion.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I second Daniel's comments.<br>
>>><br>
>>> As an intro, I work at NIWA and have been active in the NZ FOSS<br>
>>> GIS community for some years (QGIS, Postgis, Geonetwork, GMT,<br>
>>> GDAL, etc...), and a semi-regular at FOSS4G when I can.<br>
>>> There are a few events that this could link in with, and a few<br>
>>> local SIGs & forums that may also be interested, but if<br>
>>> TechnologyOne are interested in linking this to their QGIS<br>
>>> workshops, I think that would be an ideal start, possibly even in<br>
>>> both countries??<br>
>>><br>
>>> Some other NZ groups/events we could perhaps work with:<br>
>>><br>
>>> NZ Spatial Excellence awards<br>
>>> Horizons Regional GIS forum<br>
>>> NZOSA<br>
>>> ALGIM<br>
>>> NZ Emerging Spatial Professionals<br>
>>> ...<br>
>>><br>
>>> My time & availability is limited, but very happy to help where I<br>
>>> can to progress this.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Brent Wood<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 21 November 2017 at 22:50, Alex Leith <<a href="mailto:alexgleith@gmail.com" target="_blank">alexgleith@gmail.com</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:alexgleith@gmail.com" target="_blank">alexgleith@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi Daniel and others<br>
>>><br>
>>> I think that sounds like a good plan, alternating between NZ and<br>
>>> AU.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Responding to Jeff, it's fantastic to know that OSGeo is<br>
>>> supportive. And my earlier comments around 'organisation' really<br>
>>> are around how we can have an account and seed funding to start<br>
>>> from. I think doing that through an existing organisation sounds<br>
>>> way better than creating an entity.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regarding John's steps, I think this is just about right.<br>
>>> Somewhere in there needs to be the organising of a relationship<br>
>>> with a body that can handle the money, though. Once we've got a<br>
>>> bit of a prospectus, I can talk to SSSI, potentially. Are there<br>
>>> other organisations may be interested?<br>
>>><br>
>>> And again, I agree with John, so let's try to arrange some kind of<br>
>>> video meeting soon. I suggest the week after next, so 5 or 6 of<br>
>>> Dec.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Regards,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Alex<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 22:18 dwsilk <<a href="mailto:dsilk@linz.govt.nz" target="_blank">dsilk@linz.govt.nz</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:dsilk@linz.govt.nz" target="_blank">dsilk@linz.govt.nz</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Hi all<br>
>>><br>
>>> For those that don't know me, I work at Land Information New<br>
>>> Zealand and<br>
>>> attended the QGIS Au meetup on Friday.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 21 November 2017 at 23:21, John Bryant <[hidden email]><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > I see the first steps, roughly, as:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > -form a committee & determine 'rules of engagement' (how do<br>
>>> we work<br>
>>> > together as a group?)<br>
>>><br>
>>> ..and as an extension of this, how do we work together as two<br>
>>> countries?<br>
>>><br>
>>> One idea that I raised with John when we discussed this was:<br>
>>> - sharing membership of an organising committee between Au/NZ<br>
>>> - alternating FOSS4G events between the two countries each year<br>
>>> - heavy lifting is taken on by the committee members from the<br>
>>> host country<br>
>>><br>
>>> As a bit of background, TechnologyOne has organised a QGIS<br>
>>> user conference<br>
>>> in New Zealand for the last few years. That conference already<br>
>>> consisted of<br>
>>> 2 or 3 days of workshops + two days of conference (one day on<br>
>>> QGIS, one day<br>
>>> on Intramaps) and I'm guessing attracts around 100 attendees.<br>
>>><br>
>>> There is certainly interest here in expanding this to a FOSS4G<br>
>>> event and I'm<br>
>>> keen to continue to be part of the discussion and work toward<br>
>>> making that<br>
>>> happen.<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 21 November 2017 at 01:49, Jeff McKenna <[hidden email]><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > - I think the future model of FOSS4G events can be seen in<br>
>>> the recent<br>
>>> > FOSS4G-SotM-AR <a href="http://www.foss4g-ar.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.foss4g-ar.org/</a> (Argentina).<br>
>>><br>
>>> That event looks great Jeff, and the additional guidance will<br>
>>> be valuable.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Cheers<br>
>>> Daniel<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Sent from:<br>
>>><br>
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>>><br>
>>><br>
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