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<p>Hi David,</p>
<p>Thanks for your multi-level government reminder, which I've
wrapped into a sentence in the introduction:</p>
<p><i>"... While delivered in Australia, the vision is globally
relevant, for all government bodies, and for all levels of
government."</i></p>
<p>I don't claim to be an expert on the mandate of the Digital
Transformation Office, but I think that like other national
departments, they just have mandate in the national arena (and
don't have mandate over the states). This is something governments
could get much better at.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/2/18 8:06 pm, David Collins
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The document looks
good, and I like the recent edits. I would like to offer the
perspective of a free-lance developer, who is using open
spatial data from the Australian government, and the 7 state
governments. In the process of developing an app, I am
increasing accessibility to that government data, and making
it more valuable. </div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The point I'd like to
make is that for my project, state government data is at least
as important as federal government data. For example, the best
roads, water ways and geographic names data is held by the
states. Fortunately, most of the states have embraced
Creative Commons, and for the majority of the states, all of
their useful data is available as CC BY, which means it can be
used in a commercial product. For a couple of states though,
this is not yet the case. In this situation, the pricing
excludes low-cost app developers like myself from accessing
the best available topographic data, resulting in the data
being only available to those with big budgets, which of
course include corporations like Apple, Google, ESRI, etc.</div>
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have briefly looked
at the Digital Transformation Agency web-site, to see who they
engage with. It includes a fairly diverse list, but I have
not been able to find reference to any consultation with the
state governments.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><a
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<ul>
<li><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Digital 10<br>
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<li><font face="verdana, sans-serif">PMO roundtable<br>
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<li><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Non-government sector<br>
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<li><font face="verdana, sans-serif">OECD digital economy<br>
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<li><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Open Government
Partnership<br>
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<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">A quote from their
web-site - '<i>Our agency was set up in 2015 to help
government departments and agencies undergo digital
transformation.</i>' Does this only include the federal
government?</font></div>
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<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I do not feel that I
operate at the right level to write up a recommendation in
this document, but am happy for you to utilise some of
these thoughts if you think any of the points are
relevant.</font></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 8:52 AM,
Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">The Australian
Government has asked for feedback on how they are going at
Open Government, and I've started a draft response. I'm
really keen to make sure that this response is well
constructed because I think that if listened to,
understood, and acted upon, then we can make a huge
difference to the effectiveness of Open Government
worldwide - and by extension, to Open Source as well.<br>
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If you have a chance to read and provide review comments,
I'd be very grateful. Email me directly to get review
access.<br>
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(It will take ~ 10 minutes to read. Longer if you take
time to think about how things should be reworded and
consider what is missing and should be included.)<br>
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Cameron Shorter<br>
Technology Demystifier, Learnosity<br>
Open Technologies Consultant<br>
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