[Board-fr] Certification application CartoExpert - Decision User Group required

DelazJ delazj at gmail.com
Mar 18 Oct 09:10:49 PDT 2022


Hello,
autre tentative pour vous faire suivre la décision qu'on avait prise il y a
un moment mais que je n'avais pas exécutée (sorry). Le précédent envoi
était trop lourd pour la liste board. J'espère que celui-ci passera.

Harrissou
Le mar. 18 oct. 2022 à 18:04, DelazJ <delazj at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi Hans,
> Quite a very late reply. I forgot to get back to you and am sorry for any
> inconvenience this might result into.
>
> Regarding Mehdi Semchaoui's request, and after some investigations in the
> community, we did not find evidences that himself or his company
> CartoExpert have been active contributors (in any of the means you
> mentioned in your message) to the QGIS project for the last 4+ years. About
> the reputation I can't tell really considering that most of us do not know
> him.
> Considering the above, our decision is "NO" for now.
>
> Kind regards,
> Harrissou on behalf of the QGIS French User Group
>
> Le mar. 10 mai 2022 à 10:55, Hans van der Kwast <h.vanderkwast at un-ihe.org>
> a écrit :
>
>> Hi Etienne and Harissou,
>>
>>
>> Thanks Etienne for connecting me to the French QGIS User Group.
>>
>>
>> Here's the information about the process:
>>
>> We've received the application for the QGIS certicate programme from
>> CartoExpert. We always check if the course materials are of good quality
>> and up-to-date (> latest LTR version). We also check if the contribution to
>> QGIS enough. Contribution can be in many ways, see a list below this
>> e-mail. Finally, we ask the local QGIS user group to take a decision,
>> including the reputation of the applicant.
>>
>>
>> Etienne has reviewed the materials and concluded that it meets the
>> requirements.
>>
>> The applicant (Mehdi Semchaoui) indicated that he contributes mainly
>> through translations. The question is if the User Group finds that enough?
>> Is Mehdi also a (active) member of the user group? Does Mehdi and his firm
>> CartoExpert have a good reputation?
>>
>>
>> Please let me know your thoughts on the decision for this application.
>> Also let me know if you have any questions.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>
>> Hans
>>
>> -----------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Possible contributions to QGIS
>>
>> - Development/commits to QGIS
>> - Contributions to the QGIS documentation and training materials
>> - Translation of QGIS materials
>> - Authoring plugins
>> - Filing bug reports
>> - Financially supporting new feature development
>> - Financial contributions to and sponsorship of QGIS
>> - Involvement in your local QGIS User Group
>> - Publication of open QGIS course ware
>> - Authoring QGIS books
>>
>> Applicant provided the following info:
>> *1. Please prepare and provide a document detailing your organization's
>> contributions to the QGIS project. You can send this to us.*
>>
>> I'm a french registered consultant and i mainly contribute to the QGIS project
>> with a translation activity.
>> CartoExpert is an official french certified training center (Qualiopi),
>> QGIS commercial support
>> <https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/forusers/commercial_support.html> and
>> 3LIZ/Lizmap official commercial support & training centre.
>> https://www.qgis.org/fr/site/forusers/commercial_support.html
>> *2. Please provide access to your course outline/syllabi and a sample of
>> the exercises, data and lectures. If there is a course website that
>> will help too. You can either email us the materials, course links or send
>> them via Google Drive, Box or DropBox.*
>>
>> You will find as attached a sample of a power-point presentation (QGIS Introduction)
>> and the first page of the QGIS document (with TOC).Please don't share or
>> publish.
>>
>> *3. Please let us know if there is a local QGIS user group and provide me
>> with contact information. *
>> There's a french QGIS user group, even if i work a lot with western
>> africa (maybe it will be a good project to create one for West Africa :-) ).
>> In France, the contact information is Harissou Sant Anna.
>> You should contact to M.Etienne TRIMAILLE from 3liz (etrimaille at 3liz.com
>> ).
>>
>> The goal is efectively to make a €20 donation (or more) to the QGIS project
>> for each certificate (for each trainee who want it), in order to contribute
>> to the QGIS development. That's right, this creates a good mechanism for
>> financial support of the project and i would like to contribute. The
>> promotion of this mechanism was explained to me by my partner (Etienne from
>> 3LIZ). I find it's great ! I am very motivated to be part of the program
>> and even better help the activities of the French users group, according to
>> my schedule.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have other questions.
>> Best regards from Paris ;-)
>>
>> <http://www.cartoexpert.com/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Etienne Trimaille <etrimaille at 3liz.com>
>> *Sent:* 10 May 2022 10:38
>> *To:* Hans van der Kwast
>> *Cc:* delazj at gmail.com
>> *Subject:* Re: Certification
>>
>> CAUTION: External email. Ensure this message is from a trusted source
>> before clicking links/attachments.
>>
>> Hi Hans,
>>
>> The QGIS User group FR is part of the OSGEO-FR association.
>> Harissou Sant-anna is in charge of the QGIS User group FR. I have added
>> him in CC.
>> What do you want us to check ?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Le mar. 10 mai 2022 à 10:28, Hans van der Kwast <h.vanderkwast at un-ihe.org>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Etienne,
>>>
>>>
>>> One more question for the review. I can't find a website of the French
>>> QGIS User Group. The link on QGIS.org points to the French OSGeo chapter.
>>>
>>> Is there an official user group with members? If so, who can I contact?
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Hans
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Hans van der Kwast
>>> *Sent:* 10 May 2022 10:25:03
>>> *To:* Etienne Trimaille
>>> *Subject:* Re: Certification
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Etienne,
>>>
>>>
>>> Great that they fixed it!
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm indeed with my students in the area for hydrological fieldwork.
>>> We're staying at Camping du Bourg. Give me a call in that week if you can
>>> meet (+31644352654).
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Hans
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Etienne Trimaille <etrimaille at 3liz.com>
>>> *Sent:* 10 May 2022 10:19
>>> *To:* Hans van der Kwast
>>> *Subject:* Re: Certification
>>>
>>> CAUTION: External email. Ensure this message is from a trusted source
>>> before clicking links/attachments.
>>>
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> Thanks for checking.
>>> I raised a ticket on github yesterday. It has been fixed :
>>> https://github.com/kartoza/prj.app/issues/1430
>>> The PR has been merged, maybe he is waiting for the deployment to close
>>> the ticket.
>>>
>>> > By the way, I'm in Digne-les-Bains from 28 May to 4 June. If you are
>>> near, we could meet.
>>>
>>> Great, is-it the week with your students about topography ?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Le mar. 10 mai 2022 à 10:07, Hans van der Kwast <
>>> h.vanderkwast at un-ihe.org> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Etienne,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thans for the review. I think I can proceed with that.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For your questions: in my case it always shows euros, see attchments.
>>>> I'm not sure why in your case it show dollars.
>>>>
>>>> The invoice has a number #...... If you need something else or custom
>>>> invoice you can contact Andreas Neumann. Maybe also ask him about the issue
>>>> with dollar/euro. Also good to copy Tim Sutton, because it might be a
>>>> config issue in the platform.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I'm in Digne-les-Bains from 28 May to 4 June. If you are
>>>> near, we could meet.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Etienne Trimaille <etrimaille at 3liz.com>
>>>> *Sent:* 09 May 2022 17:10:11
>>>> *To:* Hans van der Kwast
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Certification
>>>>
>>>> CAUTION: External email. Ensure this message is from a trusted source
>>>> before clicking links/attachments.
>>>>
>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>
>>>> I have checked the two examples of the training from Cartoexpert. So
>>>> submitters need to provide a few pages of the training material ?
>>>> It's ok for me, the two PDFs, the program seems long/complete enough
>>>> and good quality.
>>>> For the contribution side, I'm not sure what to check compare to others
>>>> submissions.
>>>>
>>>> Back to the question above :
>>>>
>>>> Le ven. 29 avr. 2022 à 11:22, Hans van der Kwast <
>>>> h.vanderkwast at un-ihe.org> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    - If you pay with Stripe for the topup you'll automatically
>>>>>    receive a receipt. You also receive a confirmation e-mail from the
>>>>>    platform. Example receipt attached.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks for checking.
>>>> So your PDF invoice is in EURO.
>>>>
>>>> I have just checked now on the website :
>>>> - it's first asking in EURO, see my first screenshot on
>>>> changelog.qgis.org
>>>> - then on strip, it's the same amount, but the currency is USD, the
>>>> second screenshot in on strip.
>>>>
>>>> Which currency will be used on the bank side ? Can you check on strip
>>>> what is displayed for you ?
>>>> Sorry for asking this question, my company wants everything to be clear
>>>> with bank fees according to USD, tax regulation etc ...
>>>> I will create a ticket for this bug, because having 2 currencies with
>>>> the same amount is not making things clear in the process.
>>>>
>>>> My company would need an "invoice with the invoice ID" with VAT if
>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let me know if you have more questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hans
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Etienne Trimaille <etrimaille at 3liz.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* 28 April 2022 15:43:33
>>>>> *To:* Hans van der Kwast
>>>>> *Subject:* Certification
>>>>>
>>>>> CAUTION: External email. Ensure this message is from a trusted source
>>>>> before clicking links/attachments.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for the long delay about this topic. I'm indeed a little bit off
>>>>> these days from QGIS. I want to come back :)
>>>>> And at the same time, I think I wasn't sure what to answer about this
>>>>> request, what is expected etc...
>>>>>
>>>>> What should we check about Mehdi ?
>>>>> Compare to others companies listed on
>>>>> https://changelog.qgis.org/en/qgis/certifyingorganisation/list/
>>>>> I don't know them all and I don't know their level of participation in
>>>>> the QGIS community.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also tried to make my "first" certified trainings, but I didn't find
>>>>> all my answers on qgis.org website.
>>>>> - can we provide the text in another language ? It seems only English
>>>>> for now ? I tried to provide the PNG, but the text is printed in English on
>>>>> top of it.
>>>>> - I'm not sure how to register the event, mainly about the training
>>>>> center ? Edit, after checking some existing training course on other
>>>>> companies, it seems that most users just put a single "training center"
>>>>> labeled with the company name ? (because on go site for some clients, but I
>>>>> guess this information is not relevant).
>>>>> - Dates : some trainings, are 3 weeks long, but a single or two days
>>>>> per week only. But I guess this is more a feature request. For now, we can
>>>>> only have start and end dates (so continuous training).
>>>>>
>>>>> If we pay with strip, do I need to ask Andreas about the invoice ? Or
>>>>> is there one provided automatically ? My boss is curious to have a receipt
>>>>> when paying by credit card :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for these questions :)
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Etienne Trimaille
>>>>> Ingénieur géomaticien
>>>>> www.3liz.com
>>>>>
>>>>> +33 6 12 93 11 39
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Siège social*
>>>>> 73, allée Kleber
>>>>> Boulevard de Strasbourg
>>>>> 34000 Montpellier
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Etienne Trimaille
>>>> Ingénieur géomaticien
>>>> www.3liz.com
>>>>
>>>> +33 6 12 93 11 39
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Siège social*
>>>> 73, allée Kleber
>>>> Boulevard de Strasbourg
>>>> 34000 Montpellier
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Etienne Trimaille
>>> Ingénieur géomaticien
>>> www.3liz.com
>>>
>>> +33 6 12 93 11 39
>>>
>>>
>>> *Siège social*
>>> 73, allée Kleber
>>> Boulevard de Strasbourg
>>> 34000 Montpellier
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Etienne Trimaille
>> Ingénieur géomaticien
>> www.3liz.com
>>
>> +33 6 12 93 11 39
>>
>>
>> *Siège social*
>> 73, allée Kleber
>> Boulevard de Strasbourg
>> 34000 Montpellier
>>
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