[Board] board operation question from the incubation list

[María Arias de Reyna]

Hi,

In my opinion, even if we don't count the votes of the members in conflict,
we have a majority of the board agreeing on this motion. So I think it
makes sense to approve it.

The alternative would be to freeze the incubation of a project until no
member of the board has conflicts. Considering that the incubation is just
the start of a longer process which may or may not succeed, I think it is
healthier to accept the incubation and make sure the conflict of interests
are solved by the end of the process (the sooner, the better).

Regards,
María.


On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett at gmail.com> wrote:

> The following questions on board operation is from Vicky on the incubation
> list:
>
> Hello all
>
> *As member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live, I am glad to read that the motion of
> considering OSGeo-Live for incubation has passed.*
>
> *I am concerned because the the incubator committee has a member that has
> a conflict of interest because is also a member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live
> project, and he voted +1.*
> *I expressed my concern in the "Juez y Parte" thread of [1], where is
> "clear" that there is no guideline of the action to be taken on a committee
> member when there is a conflict of interest. (the thread has a link to the
> incubator committee guidelines [2])*
> *I must say that, at least, the committee member with the conflict of
> interest, mentioned his involvement when voting, but he didn't step down
> from the committee, or voted in such a way that his vote would not
> influence the over all result like a (+0)*
>
> *So, The next step is for the board for approval.*
> *And my concern grows thinking on how the board with two board members
> also on the PSC of OSGeo-Live, so more conflict of interest.*
>
> *I was doubtful of which was the correct mailing list to make this post.
> (Here or Discuss) but having Jody as part of Board, I leave the decision to
> him if this new concern of mine "Juez y Parte" but for board making
> decision on projects they belong to.*
>
> *I want things made done right. Our project application, as far as I can
> see, can  be used to make more precise written rules/policies about
> conflicts of interest.*
> *But what I would not want is someone else in the future, to notice and
> make a big fuss/attack of "how bad X person acted when having a conflict of
> interest".*
>
> *I wonder if there is a guideline equivalent to the incubator committee
> guideline but for board.*
>
> *Regards*
> *Vicky*
>
>
> And the following answer from myself:
>
> *Thanks Vicky, motion is not quite passed yet (waiting on 100% response
> for the electronic voting).*
>
> *I note that the board-priv at osgeo.org <board-priv at osgeo.org> list is
> available if you have any questions you would like to raise privately.*
>
> *You can see a couple of approaches in play here:*
> *- Earlier on the incubation thread I asked the incubation committee to
> consider my early involvement with OSGeo live and if it would be a
> hindrance to acting as mentor.*
> *- During MOT1 voting I responded with +1, noting my role as incubation
> chair*
> *- During MOT1 voting you can see Angelos abstain with a +0 vote, noting
> his role as PSC chair*
>
> *The board has addressed these kind of tensions previously, asking
> directors to acknowledge if they are affected by the matter at hand - but
> still vote in a responsible fashion as a director of OSGeo. This issue
> comes up a lot for directors, because they are part of OSGeo and are
> affected by most decisions.*
>
> *With your permission I would like to pass your question and the above
> answer to the board email list. I try not to cross post since that leads to
> madness.*
>
>
> Checking the wiki we do have a policy - https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/
> Conflict_Of_Interest_Policy
> --
> Jody Garnett
>
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