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What I think will be helpful for moving the OSGeo-Eclipse debate
forward is defining and writing down "What OSGeo wants out of the
relationship".<br>
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An example of what I see as a position similar relationship is OGC's
relationship with the ISO standards organisation. ISO is responsible
for international standards, and has delegated the development of
spatial standards down to the OGC. I understand that this has been
set up through a MoU between OGC and ISO.<br>
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I think that OSGeo should say:<br>
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* OSGeo wants to continue to be the recognised foundation that
Geospatial Open Source projects turn to for support. In particular,
we don't want to see the marketplace split by choosing between one
foundation and another. Such a slit is likely to create a lot of bad
will amongst the greater community, and lead to reduced productivity
which will not be good for anyone.<br>
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* As such we wish to see the Eclipse Foundation worth through the
OSGeo Foundation.<br>
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If we can get the Eclipse Foundation to agree to the above, then I
think we can continue moving forward with a positive discussion.<br>
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On 11/06/2012 11:58 PM, Mark Lucas wrote:
<blockquote cite="mid:53A23B07-5B36-49C6-84CB-CA41BFBDF9C2@mac.com"
type="cite">OSGeo future and Eclipse…
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<div>Sorry I haven't gotten back to this earlier. </div>
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<div>I hope this won't be misinterpreted so let me emphasize a
couple of points:</div>
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<div>I believe the OSGeo is the global leader in open source
geospatial development</div>
<div>We have the top projects as members, </div>
<div>we have infrastructure that supports development, </div>
<div>we host great international, regional and local conferences.</div>
<div>I am also very impressed with the caliber of the committees
and board members</div>
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<div>I would like to see us preserve all of that an enhance it.</div>
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<div>There is always room for improvement and areas of concern,
maybe some of those could be addressed through a relationship
with another entity - such as Eclipse.</div>
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<div>1) We have no staff</div>
<div>2) Our president is stepping down - who is the face of OSGeo?</div>
<div>3) We spend much more time discussing how we spend the little
money we have then how we raise more funding</div>
<div>4) There is not any real focus on open source business models</div>
<div>5) Many of the ex Directors, open source geospatial
companies, and key contributors are focusing on other avenues </div>
<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>(DM
Solutions, OpenGeo, Autodesk, RadiantBlue, ESRI, Oracle just off
the top of my head).</div>
<div>6) I'm worried how we sustain and grow the organization</div>
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<div>Please don't take this as a doom and gloom forecast. We have
success and inertia behind us, as the board we have the
obligation to guide the organization. Now is the time to think
about the way ahead. I'm all for exploring a relationship with
Eclipse if we believe it preserves our strengths and helps to
address my concerns.</div>
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<div>Mark</div>
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<div>On Jun 11, 2012, at 9:12 AM, Jo Cook wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite">Hi All,
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<div>I have been chatting to someone who it turns out is
peripherally involved in the Eclipse LWG and is going to
be in on a conference call with them on Thursday. He has a
small open source GIS project, and they have offered to
put it under their banner. He is ambivalent, but I've
asked him for some more background on what they offer, and
any process that projects would need to go through. I'm
hoping that this will fill in some of the gaps that those
of us (me in particular) had about what Eclipse are
offering, so that we can kick-start the discussion again-
hopefully a bit more positively this time with the
additional background.</div>
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<div>I hope that's useful, and that people feel the
discussion is worth kick-starting- I certainly do. If so,
I'll report back towards the end of the week when I have
some more information.</div>
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<div>All the best</div>
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<div>Jo<br>
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