<div dir="ltr">Oops, finger trouble with previous email.<div><br></div><div style>I agree with David and Michael that the location of the NA conference is not something that should be mixed in here. OSGeo has had no role in that up to this point so can't just suddenly dictate that.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>We have two good proposals and it's a shame that one has to lose. But we've been in that situation before. Denver and Utrecht both had good bids that lost to Barcelona, Denver ended up bidding again and won it subsequently.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>So I agree we need a short time for review / discussion followed by a vote. Not sure I agree the vote should be public, it has always been private in the past on the conference committee?</div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:36 AM, David William Bitner <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bitner@dbspatial.com" target="_blank">bitner@dbspatial.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">The precedence to date has been that the regional events are events selected and organized by the regions at a bit of an arms length from OSGeo International. FOSS4G-NA in Minneapolis did not have the resources to operate without OSGeo as a financial backstop (note we just needed the "insurance" of a financial backstop, not any up-front thanks to the FOSS4G-NA organizers in DC).<div>
<br></div><div>If OSGeo is going to get in the business of selecting the locations for any of these regionals, in my opinion, OSGeo better be willing to step up to play a much more active role in these events. The direction from OSGeo to these regional events has been wishy-washy at best. I think that OSGeo needs a real strategy for these events. FOSS4G-NA is not a consolation prize, it is an event thrown by and for the NA community with a focus on the issues of that region.</div>
<div><br></div><div>If the OSGeo Board and the Conf Comm believe that an LOC needs more experience, I think it is reasonable to encourage them to bid for a regional event as things are run right now.</div><div><br></div>
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David</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:50 PM, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Mark,<br>
I do like your proposal of 1st place being awarded FOSS4G Global,
and 2nd place being offered FOSS4G-NA the following year.<br>
<br>
However, I'm not sure who will be responsible for selecting the
FOSS4G-NA city, or what process is in place (if any) for selecting
a FOSS4G-NA city. If someone following this thread is in the know,
I'd encourage you to speak up.<div><div><br>
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On 23/07/2013 12:01 PM, Mark Lucas wrote:<br>
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<div>Sounds like we are making up the rules as we go along. I
think we either have a board vote or not. If someone wants to
abstain because they believe they have a conflict of interest
that should be their personal decision.</div>
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<div>I'd like to find a way to select one as the international
conference and let the other organize as a regional. </div>
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<div>I'd really like to find a way to build up OSGeo revenues
through some of the regional conferences as well. Perhaps as
simple as when they need OSGeo financial backing we work a
division of profits.</div>
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<div>First step is simply selecting the international venue.</div>
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<div>Mark</div>
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<div>On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Daniel Morissette <<a href="mailto:dmorissette@mapgears.com" target="_blank">dmorissette@mapgears.com</a>>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 13-07-22 8:33 AM, Bart van den
Eijnden wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Right, this makes sense Arnulf.<br>
<br>
My concern was merely that if there is one proposal with
"broad support"<br>
(a.k.a. conflict of interest), and all those people step out
of voting<br>
(both on the conf committee as on the board), the vote will
be very<br>
skewed. This is exactly what Daniel has pointed out.<br>
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BTW, I believe Mark Lucas is on the DC LOC so we'd lose him as
well for the vote unless I'm mistaken.<br>
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