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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">(Retitling this email thread as I don't
believe it is relevant to the FOSS4G global decision).<br>
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Hi David,<br>
I think you are touching on the subtle difference between "OSGeo
support" vs "OSGeo control" of regional FOSS4G events.<br>
As you are hinting at, "Support" is welcome, "Control" is not. Ie,
OSGeo should aim to collect a repository of wisdom and best
practices, which regional conferences can draw upon, but still
give regional conferences the flexibility to be creative and
innovative and do things differently if they wish.<br>
<br>
With regards to city selection for FOSS4G-NA, I agree that it
should be up to the region to decide the process for selecting the
city.<br>
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On 23/07/2013 10:36 PM, David William Bitner wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">The precedence to date has been that the regional
events are events selected and organized by the regions at a bit
of an arms length from OSGeo International. FOSS4G-NA in
Minneapolis did not have the resources to operate without OSGeo
as a financial backstop (note we just needed the "insurance" of
a financial backstop, not any up-front thanks to the FOSS4G-NA
organizers in DC).
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<div>If OSGeo is going to get in the business of selecting the
locations for any of these regionals, in my opinion, OSGeo
better be willing to step up to play a much more active role
in these events. The direction from OSGeo to these regional
events has been wishy-washy at best. I think that OSGeo needs
a real strategy for these events. FOSS4G-NA is not a
consolation prize, it is an event thrown by and for the NA
community with a focus on the issues of that region.</div>
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<div>If the OSGeo Board and the Conf Comm believe that an LOC
needs more experience, I think it is reasonable to encourage
them to bid for a regional event as things are run right now.</div>
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David</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:50 PM,
Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>Hi Mark,<br>
I do like your proposal of 1st place being awarded
FOSS4G Global, and 2nd place being offered FOSS4G-NA the
following year.<br>
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However, I'm not sure who will be responsible for
selecting the FOSS4G-NA city, or what process is in
place (if any) for selecting a FOSS4G-NA city. If
someone following this thread is in the know, I'd
encourage you to speak up.
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On 23/07/2013 12:01 PM, Mark Lucas wrote:<br>
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<div>Sounds like we are making up the rules as we go
along. I think we either have a board vote or
not. If someone wants to abstain because they
believe they have a conflict of interest that
should be their personal decision.</div>
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<div>I'd like to find a way to select one as the
international conference and let the other
organize as a regional. </div>
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<div>I'd really like to find a way to build up OSGeo
revenues through some of the regional conferences
as well. Perhaps as simple as when they need
OSGeo financial backing we work a division of
profits.</div>
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<div>First step is simply selecting the
international venue.</div>
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<div>Mark</div>
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<div>On Jul 22, 2013, at 8:36 AM, Daniel
Morissette <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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target="_blank">dmorissette@mapgears.com</a>>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 13-07-22 8:33 AM, Bart
van den Eijnden wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Right, this makes sense
Arnulf.<br>
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My concern was merely that if there is one
proposal with "broad support"<br>
(a.k.a. conflict of interest), and all those
people step out of voting<br>
(both on the conf committee as on the board),
the vote will be very<br>
skewed. This is exactly what Daniel has
pointed out.<br>
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BTW, I believe Mark Lucas is on the DC LOC so
we'd lose him as well for the vote unless I'm
mistaken.<br>
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