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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm taking this email thread back to
the public email list. (As below, it is publicly being discussed
on the QGIS list).<br>
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In answer to question:<br>
"Does OSGeo want to provide infrastructure for the small, starting
projects, or also the bigger projects with higher demands?"<br>
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My thoughts are that OSGeo need only step in to help projects in
areas where there are gaps, and where OSGeo can help more
efficiently than commercial providers.<br>
As being identified by the QGIS team, effective services are
available outside of OSGeo, and that is ok.<br>
The real value that OSGeo provides is "a quality brand", marketing
pipelines, sourcing of developers and cross pollination between
projects.<br>
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On 25/09/13 16:32, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:<br>
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This has been done now by the QGIS people on the SAC list:
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<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>Bart</div>
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<div>On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:55 PM, Cameron Shorter <<a
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">These are all valid
questions to ask. I suggest that we open this
conversation into a public forum (either public
board list and/or sys-admin list). We have a lot of
experienced people within OSGeo who might be able to
offer guidance. <br>
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On 24/09/13 23:02, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:<br>
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I got a bit more feedback from the QGIS people on
the issue.
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<div>Apparently they have a single VM doing all the
work, website, Redmine, build server, integration
server. They would like to have separate VMs for
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<div>They also said they would not mind getting on
their own and rent a server at e.g. <a
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and do everything themselves.</div>
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<div>So it all boils down to the following question:</div>
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<div>"Does OSGeo want to provide infrastructure for
the small, starting projects, or also the bigger
projects with higher demands?"</div>
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<div>My contact person (Richard Duivenvoorde) has
been in contact with Alex Mandel and will send an
e-mail to the QGIS PSC and the SAIC committee
soon.</div>
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<div>But it would be good if we as a board could
decide on the strategy.</div>
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<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>Bart</div>
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<div>On Sep 21, 2013, at 9:12 PM, Cameron
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Assuming that Amazon can provide value add to
OSGeo members, then I think an "in kind"
sponsorship arrangement with Amazon would be
worth pursuing.<br>
I'm +1 for approaching Amazon to see what
options they'd entertain.<br>
Next step would be to put together a joint
proposal which the board can vote on again.<br>
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On 21/09/13 07:32, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Hey board,<br>
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I got some complaints about osgeo
infrastructure not being able to deal with
enough load, this was apparent again today
with failures of the qgis website under high
traffic.<br>
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Someone suggested we should talk to Amazon
about getting a grant to use some of their
infrastructure for free.<br>
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Has this been discussed before and are we
open to this suggestion?<br>
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Bart<br>
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