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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Eli,<br>
      <br>
      Thank you for the thoughts.<br>
      <br>
      Stating the obvious, 2015 is an event and related but decoupled
      from future events. <br>
      <br>
      I'm happy to participate in an open dialogue brainstorming for
      future events.<br>
      <br>
      For what it's worth, I agree that it doesn't make a lot of sense
      to host a regional FOSS4G & Global FOSS4G in the same region
      in the same year. Just my opinion, but ideally they are one and
      the same that year.<br>
      <br>
      IMHO, people have come to expect the Global event in the fall so
      that's pretty important. Spring could work well too, but would
      need to be planned well in advance so people know and it could
      avoid conflicting events.<br>
      <br>
      If you don't mind sharing, what kinds of things do you have in
      mind for benefits & things to look out for?<br>
      <br>
      Kind regards,<br>
      <br>
      Andrew<br>
      <br>
      On 22/04/14 23:30, Eli Adam wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Andrew, <br>
        <div><br>
          Thanks for interest in co-hosting FOSS4G-NA with other
          conferences and planning ahead.  <br>
          <br>
          I think that there could be benefits to joint organizing.  <br>
          <div><br>
            FOSS4G-NA takes every third year off to leave plenty of
            space for the international FOSS4G when in North America.
            What would be the plan for those years in a merged
            scenario?  Merge with the international conference?  In fall
            or spring?  Continue on with a spring date to be a different
            time of year and have two that year?  Other?  <br>
            <br>
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          <div>There are benefits worth pursuing.  <br>
            <br>
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          <div>Best Regards and see you in PDX, Eli<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 10:39 PM, Seven
          (aka Arnulf) <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:seven@arnulf.us" target="_blank">seven@arnulf.us</a>></span>
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            ...forwarding to Local Chapters.<br>
            <br>
            What Daniel proposes here is a kind of meta Local Chapters
            community,<br>
            not quite regional but also not global. My hopes are that it
            will<br>
            manifest as we go simply because we need it and people
            attach to the<br>
            idea. For a start I believe it would be helpful to continue
            the dialog<br>
            on this list because it is (supposed to be) the meta level
            meeting<br>
            place for local chaps.<br>
            <br>
            There is no imminent problem and there is certainly no
            strategy but in<br>
            the long run we will want to have some communication
            *before* things<br>
            happen, especially if they affect a broader slate of the
            community.<br>
            <br>
            If you are interested in global FOSS4G topics I suggest you<br>
            additionally subscribe to this list:<br>
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <br>
            <br>
            Have fun,<br>
            Arnulf<br>
            <br>
            - -------- Original Message --------<br>
            Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Conf] [Board]  2015 North American
            conference<br>
            Date: Tue, 08 Apr 2014 16:33:11 -0400<br>
            From: Daniel Morissette <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:dmorissette@mapgears.com">dmorissette@mapgears.com</a>><br>
            To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org">board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
            CC: OSGEO discuss <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>>,
            conference<br>
            <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org">conference_dev@lists.osgeo.org</a>>,
            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:location-iwg@locationtech.org">location-iwg@locationtech.org</a><br>
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                Hi Everyone,<br>
                <br>
                FYI, at the Vienna Sprint two weeks ago, we had a
                similar discussion<br>
                about the (lack of) decision process for the location of
                FOSS4G-Europe.<br>
                The people involved in the discussion included past
                FOSS4G and<br>
                FOSS4G-CEE organizers, some key members of the EU
                community and a few<br>
                board members, and the conclusion on the question of the
                decision<br>
                process was that OSGeo (the international body) and its
                conference<br>
                committee were not the right people to make the decision
                on the<br>
                FOSS4G-Europe location, and it was proposed to invite
                all local chapters<br>
                in Europe to appoint one rep to a FOSS4G-EU conference
                committee that<br>
                would make the decision on the location of the event.
                The creation of<br>
                this FOSS4G-EU committee should be discussed on the
                local-chapters list<br>
                at some point.<br>
                <br>
                I am reporting this here because the same could possibly
                apply to<br>
                FOSS4G-NA: the global OSGeo may not be the best entity
                to decide on the<br>
                location of FOSS4G-NA and maybe we should defer to reps
                of the local<br>
                chapters in the region?<br>
                <br>
                Let's keep this in mind when we discuss this in the
                board meeting.<br>
                <br>
                BTW, if there is only one candidate for FOSS4G-NA 2015
                then there is no<br>
                need for a formal decision process and we should keep
                things simple, but<br>
                sooner or later the need will arise.<br>
                <br>
                Daniel<br>
                <br>
                <br>
                On 14-04-07 1:59 PM, Andrew Ross wrote:<br>
                > Bart,<br>
                ><br>
                > Sure, I can make that time and I'm glad to have a
                dialogue about<br>
                > it. Thanks for suggesting.<br>
                ><br>
                > Kind regards,<br>
                ><br>
                > Andrew<br>
                ><br>
                > On 07/04/14 13:31, Bart van den Eijnden wrote:<br>
                >> Hey Andrew,<br>
                >><br>
                >> we have a board meeting this Thursday so maybe
                we can discuss it<br>
                >> there as well given this is urgent?<br>
                >><br>
                >> I’ll add it to the agenda, would you be
                available on IRC for any<br>
                >> questions?<br>
                >><br>
                >> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-04-10"
                  target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2014-04-10</a><br>
                >><br>
                >> Best regards, Bart<br>
                >><br>
                >> On 07 Apr 2014, at 19:04, Andrew Ross <<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:andrew.ross@eclipse.org">andrew.ross@eclipse.org</a><br>
                >> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:andrew.ross@eclipse.org">andrew.ross@eclipse.org</a>>>
                wrote:<br>
                >><br>
                >>> Hi Everyone,<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> For those that might be interested in
                participating in this &<br>
                >>> especially up front in terms of outreach
                & helping sort out<br>
                >>> details to tune the idea so it works well,
                please contact me.<br>
                >>> Thank you very much to those that have
                already.<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Some important decisions require immediate
                attention such as<br>
                >>> which city, what dates, and so forth.<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Some possible cities suggested by people,
                for 2015, include:<br>
                >>> D.C., San Francisco, Boston, San Diego<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> In terms of dates, late March or early
                April would be offset<br>
                >>> from the global FOSS4G & also from
                other very busy periods in<br>
                >>> the calendar. It lines up with EclipseCon,
                which co-hosting<br>
                >>> helps reduce organizing burden. For what
                it's worth, the<br>
                >>> overall conference would not be called
                EclipseCon to appeal to<br>
                >>> all constituents.<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Thoughts?<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Thanks again,<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> Andrew<br>
                >>><br>
                >>> On 04/04/14 17:02, Andrew Ross wrote:<br>
                >>>> Hello Everyone,<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> Please excuse the cross post between
                OSGeo's discuss &<br>
                >>>> conference_dev lists as well as
                LocationTech's discussion<br>
                >>>> list. I'm hoping to enable inclusive
                discussion about an<br>
                >>>> idea.<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> Bit of background, this coming May
                (19-21), LocationTech<br>
                >>>> Summit is co-hosted with Location
                Intelligence in Washington<br>
                >>>> D.C. <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://www.locationintelligence.net/"
                  target="_blank">http://www.locationintelligence.net/</a>>.
                Travel<br>
                >>>> restrictions for Federal Government
                employees for instance<br>
                >>>> meant holding this in D.C. was
                important in 2014.<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> We have started planning for 2015, and
                I wanted to reach out<br>
                >>>> and see if an idea might be of interest
                to the greater<br>
                >>>> community.<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> The idea is to co-host LocationTech
                Summit, FOSS4G North<br>
                >>>> America, and EclipseCon next year in
                the spring.<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> For those that haven't been:<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> * EclipseCon is a great  developer
                conference & covers topics<br>
                >>>> that I feel may be a really nice
                complement such as Science,<br>
                >>>> Internet of Things, Automotive,
                Software development best<br>
                >>>> practice, and more. While there are
                some awesome talks in the<br>
                >>>> area, it's not just about the IDE. :-)
                * FOSS4G NA is the<br>
                >>>> regional sibling of FOSS4G Global, also
                a great developer<br>
                >>>> conference, and focused on geospatial
                technologies. It is a<br>
                >>>> must attend event if you're into web
                mapping or looking for<br>
                >>>> open source GIS solutions. *
                LocationTech Summit is new<br>
                >>>> (first one this May), similar to FOSS4G
                however perhaps has a<br>
                >>>> stronger focus on high performance
                geoprocessing technologies<br>
                >>>> and new technologies like GeoGit for
                instance. * My feeble<br>
                >>>> attempt at contrast aside, I think
                these last two will see a<br>
                >>>> lot of the same speakers &
                audience.<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> A few thoughts:<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> * We believe a combined event could
                likely be done to<br>
                >>>> prioritize camaraderie which is so
                important for open source<br>
                >>>> projects & community. i.e. avoid
                anyone feeling lost in a<br>
                >>>> huge event. * We feel the mutual
                outreach to people across<br>
                >>>> communities would be really useful,
                interesting, and spark<br>
                >>>> wonderful ideas we can't predict. * The
                logistical work can<br>
                >>>> be done by full time conference
                organizers who organize<br>
                >>>> EclipseCon each year. The program is up
                to the communities to<br>
                >>>> set. * For those seeking suppliers,
                partners, & customers,<br>
                >>>> this should make for more
                opportunities. * Profit sharing<br>
                >>>> with significant participating groups
                is doable. We're glad<br>
                >>>> to help figure out a fair and amicable
                solution. * Ensuring<br>
                >>>> each group are well served is a
                priority of course. We think<br>
                >>>> this combined event might attract
                people who might not<br>
                >>>> otherwise come to any of them. But
                we'll have to try and<br>
                >>>> see.<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> Thoughts? Comments? Suggestions? Is
                this a good idea?<br>
                >>>> Interested?<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> Kind regards,<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>>> Andrew<br>
                >>>><br>
                >>><br>
                ><br>
                ><br>
                ><br>
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