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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">All,<br>
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Lurking on this topic a little.<br>
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Something I think related this is how to provide for support of
openSource. I'm coming from the Municipal Government side and one
thing that is hard to do is trying to figure out how to hire Open
Source groups/individuals for work items. There is a percieved
deliverable that needs to be described for most if not all funding
streams for each cycle of development, and going at this from the
professional services side of the equation has us running into
Insurance requirements that are usually too restrictive to
consider hiring any smaller OpenSource development groups.<br>
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We've had most success by purchasing "Thing" and not needing to
get into the Professional services side of contracting.<br>
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I've wondered lately if there isn't some sort of separate category
that needs to be described as a means of procurement. A new type
of product if you will. I've only been thinking about this, and
not really put anything to type yet, but it has been a major
historical hurdle to get over in almost every attempt at trying to
provide for OpenSourcers as they work. The pity is that many
smaller government units are using OpenSource since it's so
inexpensive to get something going vs buying off the shelf
software.<br>
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I'm just relaying the idea of adding into the topic related to
procurement processes and such.<br>
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bobb<br>
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On 05/04/2014 10:57 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAOhbgA=S3PW8nXi-trRC9UrEb4tzE3a=ZVZ3zp9UktfZK91c9g@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">You may like to at what Arnulf has been doing towards
certification. Endorsing is a trickery game indeed.
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<div>For GeoServer we simply list organizations, noting what kind
of work each is known for ( but not offering an endorsement). </div>
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<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Commercial+Support">http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Commercial+Support</a><br>
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On Sunday, May 4, 2014, Steven Feldman <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Thanks Jody
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<div>I would like to have a document or web link to point at
as the start of a conversation with an organisation. It
can’t be mandatory but we might want to consider community
endorsement of organisations which adopt the charter or
'social contract'</div>
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<div>I’ll start a wiki page with a few thoughts and open it
up for others to contribute their views<br>
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Steven<br>
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<div>On 2 May 2014, at 12:14, Jody Garnett <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jody.garnett@gmail.com');"
target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div
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think you are leaning towards the "social
contract" associated with being part of a
community.</div>
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style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px">For
organisations that do not wish to participate,
that is fine. Participation is one way of
minimising the risks associated with the use of
open source software, as long as they are making
that decision with a decent understanding that is
fine.</div>
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style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><br>
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<div
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px">The
way I figure it they will get burned a few times
before taking interesting in participation :) But
yeah if you are talking to managers speak in terms
of risk and change control, not
community/participation - know your audience.</div>
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style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px"><br>
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<div
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px">I
think I had a rant about the <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.how2map.com/2013/09/opensource-and-social-contract.html"
target="_blank">social contact</a> last year, it
produced one more tester of GeoServer - making the
process of issuing release candidates suspect.</div>
<div><span
style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px"></span>-- <br>
Jody Garnett</div>
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