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Hi Frank and others,<br>
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It is tough for a CRO to have to select a "random" process
retrospectively. Hence I think we should make it easier by defining
the process up front.<br>
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A "random tie breaker" will typically favour one person over
another, or even if it is a coin flip, then the looser would be
right to feel cheated that they lost to a coin flip. I think it
better to give a tie breaker vote to a person, preferably someone
with respect in the community. Typically this will be the chair of a
committee, and not one of the nominees. It could be allocated to a
board member who has served 1 year out of their 2 year term.<br>
<br>
We could give the tie breaker person a 0.5 vote instead of a 1.5
vote in order to avoid specific accusations.<br>
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On re-thinking, a 0.5 vote works for selecting 1 candidate from many
options, but can still result in a tied vote when selecting many
from many. Ie, there might be 2 candidates, each with 24.5 votes. As
such a tie breaker vote should be a ranked vote. (0.1, 0.2, 0.3,
...)<br>
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We have learned from experience that a revote can result in a second
tie, as well as using up precious time, so I suggest avoiding a
solution which involves a revote.<br>
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So I suggest:<br>
1. A ranked tie breaker vote be allocated to a person, that person
being the CRO, but am happy to consider it being allocated to
someone else.<br>
2. The person with the tie breaker vote doesn't have a vote, except
in the case of a tie.<br>
3. To avoid misfeelings in the community and pressure upon the tie
breaker, the results of the tie breaker's decision should not be
made public, and should not be in a position to be deduced. (This
probably means that we won't publish that there was a tie in the
first place).<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/07/2014 2:32 am, Frank Warmerdam
wrote:<br>
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<div>I'm not clear why the old technique of a random tie breaker
is a problem? </div>
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<div>Best regards,</div>
<div>Frank</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 2:13 AM, Cameron
Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> OSGeo Board,<br>
I propose the Board Election Procedure be changed to the
following, at:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Election_Procedure_2014"
target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Election_Procedure_2014</a><br>
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The non-trivial change I've made is to add a tie-breaker
process:<br>
<i>In case of a tied vote for board member positions, the
CRO's vote will count as 1.5 times a normal vote, in
order to resolve the tie break.</i><br>
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+1 for the change, Cameron<br>
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If the board agrees to this change, I'll move the text
across to: <br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Election_Procedure"
target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Election_Procedure</a><br>
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Jorge, can you please unlock this page so I can edit it
too.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009
P +61 2 9009 5000, W <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.lisasoft.com">www.lisasoft.com</a>, F +61 2 9009 5099</pre>
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