<div dir="ltr">Hi Steven,<br>
I love your article and think it is a good basis we can build from, but ...<br>
<br>
the article misses an Inconvenient Truth.<br>
<br>
Open Source gives away free lunches (in the context referenced by this
article). More accurately, Open Source provides a better quality lunch,
which is better value than proprietary equivalents, and you only need to
tip the cooks if you are feeling generous.<br>
<br>
Ie, organisations can, and do, enjoy the benefits of Open Source without giving back to the community.<br>
<br>
In order to become effective at raising money for Open Source, we need
to provide business arguments for Chief Financial Officers which
explains why spending money on Open Source gives strategic advantages
beyond just being a user of Open Source.<br>
<br>
Such arguments can be made, but they require more thought and explanation than this limited response.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 5:50 AM, Daniel Morissette <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dmorissette@mapgears.com" target="_blank">dmorissette@mapgears.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I like your article too. Not sure if/how we could make this an official OSGeo statement, but I'm definitely a big +1 on seeing more blog articles like this!<br>
<br>
Daniel<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
On 14-07-14 9:50 AM, Even Rouault wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Steven,<br>
<br>
I'm very supportive of your thoughts and think it could be adopted as an<br>
official OSGeo statement. Well done.<br>
<br>
If I can make a suggestion, perhaps the Donate picture should show banknotes<br>
rather than coins ;-)<br>
<br>
Even<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
A couple of months back I asked whether their was any contribution guidance<br>
that we offered to organisations using OSGeo software. Apart from Jody’s<br>
reply there wasn’t any response. I think we are missing an opportunity to<br>
encourage and help user organisations to contribute time and/or funding to<br>
OSGeo and it’s projects, so I have written this blog post<br>
<a href="http://knowwhereconsulting.co.uk/there-is-no-such-thing-as-a-free-lunch/" target="_blank">http://knowwhereconsulting.co.<u></u>uk/there-is-no-such-thing-as-<u></u>a-free-lunch/</a><br>
which sets out some thoughts on "Good practice for organisations using<br>
OSGeo software”. Hopefully it will prompt some discussion. I have posted<br>
on my blog as I didn’t feel that I should post something as speculative as<br>
this on the wiki without community endorsement, whenever people want we<br>
can move a version to the wiki. Feel free to comment on this mail thread<br>
or on the blog. ____________<br>
Steven Feldman<br>
<br>
On 5 May 2014, at 04:57, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
You may like to at what Arnulf has been doing towards certification.<br>
Endorsing is a trickery game indeed.<br>
<br>
For GeoServer we simply list organizations, noting what kind of work each<br>
is known for ( but not offering an endorsement).<br>
<br>
<a href="http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Commercial+Support" target="_blank">http://geoserver.org/display/<u></u>GEOS/Commercial+Support</a><br>
<br>
On Sunday, May 4, 2014, Steven Feldman <<a href="mailto:shfeldman@gmail.com" target="_blank">shfeldman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Thanks Jody<br>
<br>
I would like to have a document or web link to point at as the start of a<br>
conversation with an organisation. It can’t be mandatory but we might<br>
want to consider community endorsement of organisations which adopt the<br>
charter or 'social contract'<br>
<br>
I’ll start a wiki page with a few thoughts and open it up for others to<br>
contribute their views ______<br>
Steven<br>
<br>
On 2 May 2014, at 12:14, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I think you are leaning towards the "social contract" associated with<br>
being part of a community.<br>
<br>
For organisations that do not wish to participate, that is fine.<br>
Participation is one way of minimising the risks associated with the<br>
use of open source software, as long as they are making that decision<br>
with a decent understanding that is fine.<br>
<br>
The way I figure it they will get burned a few times before taking<br>
interesting in participation :) But yeah if you are talking to managers<br>
speak in terms of risk and change control, not community/participation<br>
- know your audience.<br>
<br>
I think I had a rant about the social contact last year, it produced one<br>
more tester of GeoServer - making the process of issuing release<br>
candidates suspect.<br>
</blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>
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</blockquote>
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