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Patrick, others,<br>
OSGeo and related OGC communities have been successful previously in
stopping ESRI's inappropriate creation of OGC standards. See here:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geoservices_REST_API">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geoservices_REST_API</a><br>
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I'd suggest that if we as OSGeo wish to be effective at blocking a
vendor lock-in tactic, as seems to be the case, then we should
consider developing a similar wiki page for the LAS format debate.<br>
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0. Write an open letter (who to? OGC?)<br>
1. Describe the issue. (Is there someone who knows the issues well
enough to describe them?)<br>
2. Describe technically why one format is or is not better than the
other, on both a technical and commercial point of view.<br>
3. Is the Open LIDAR format an OGC standard?<br>
4. If needed, collect signatures.<br>
5. If needed, ask OSGeo Board to present the open letter<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 28/02/2015 11:18 am, P Kishor wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Thanks Patrick for surfacing this. Yes, this should
be opened up for scrutiny by the entire community and we should
all weigh in.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:13 PM,
Suchith Anand <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Patrick,<br>
<br>
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I believe the
OSGeo Board need to look into this and prepare a position
paper with inputs from the community as this has wider
implications. This also need to be discussed with like
minded organisations. We all can provide the needed
support for this.<br>
<br>
Jeff and OSGeo Board - please add this to the next month
Board meeting's agenda items. Thanks.<br>
<br>
Best wishes,<br>
<br>
Suchith<br>
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To: Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Subject: Re: [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the ASPRS,
and the “LAZ clone” by ESRI<br>
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+1<br>
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Lene Fischer<br>
Associate Professor<br>
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Department of Geosciences and Natural Resource Management<br>
University of Copenhagen<br>
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På vegne af Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX)<br>
Sendt: 27. februar 2015 18:48<br>
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Emne: [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the
“LAZ clone” by ESRI<br>
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Dear OSGEO,<br>
For what our good name is worth. . .<br>
Do we have an opinion on something so essential as an open
standard for a data format?<br>
Speak now, or forever hand over your wallet. Individual
and collective response encouraged.<br>
<br>
Can OSGEO provide a short position paper commenting on our
values? I.e., “We hold these truths to be self-evident,
that all [data] are created equal, that they are endowed
by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that
among these [is Life, Liberty and the pursuit of
Openness].”<br>
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The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the “LAZ clone” by ESRI<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://rapidlasso.com/2015/02/22/lidar-las-asprs-esri-and-the-laz-clone/"
target="_blank">http://rapidlasso.com/2015/02/22/lidar-las-asprs-esri-and-the-laz-clone/</a><br>
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[First paragraph]<br>
We are concerned about ESRI’s next moves in forcing yet
another proprietary format into wide-spread deployment.
Forwarded emails, retold conversations, and personal
experiences suggest that sneaky tactics<<a
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href="http://rapidlasso.com/2014/11/06/keeping-esri-honest/"
target="_blank">http://rapidlasso.com/2014/11/06/keeping-esri-honest/</a>>
are being used to disrupt the harmony in open LiDAR
formats that we have enjoyed for many years.<br>
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Thanks much,<br>
-Patrick<br>
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