<p dir="ltr">Dear Bart and Till<br>
I'm sorry for the issue but i have expressed very clear my point of view.</p>
<p dir="ltr">And anyways only 4 board members have voted so far....</p>
<p dir="ltr">Issue should have been raised before and only a few people provided useful input to the discussion so far...</p>
<p dir="ltr">I hope 40k could be enough to pass 2 months... then as said amendment are possible (but not assured).</p>
<p dir="ltr">Actually as far as we don't have other members opinion we dont even know if my proposal is acceptable...</p>
<p dir="ltr">Maxi</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">Il 28/Ago/2015 20:08, "Bart van den Eijnden" <<a href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl">bartvde@osgis.nl</a>> ha scritto:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Till, Maxi,</div><div><br></div><div>is the changed proposal even acceptable for the Bonn team? I'm guessing here it is not.</div><div><br></div><div>Maxi, as Till said this might require them to take insurance which might be a big cost and result in much smaller profits possibly for OSGeo,</div><div>do we really want this?</div><div><br></div><div>Till, what is your deadline? How much time do we have to discuss?</div><div><br></div><div>Bart<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 28 aug. 2015, at 19:18, Massimiliano Cannata <<a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Dear all,<div>in attachment the revised agreement draft following the Seoul one.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Maxi</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-08-28 19:09 GMT+02:00 Massimiliano Cannata <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Jeff, the draft do not take in account any of my comment.<div><br></div><div>I will provide changes according to my proposal (make things identical to Seoul) if it is fine, but i don't want to mess up your things.</div><div><br></div><div>Can I proceed?</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>maxi</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-08-28 17:49 GMT+02:00 Jeff McKenna <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Maxi, as requested I have begun the financial agreement draft: <a href="http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/2016/budget_planning/osgeo-local-committee-advance-agreement.odt" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/2016/budget_planning/osgeo-local-committee-advance-agreement.odt</a><br>
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Everyone: please edit it accordingly. (it is in OpenOffice format)<br>
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Thanks,<br>
<br>
-jeff<div><div><br>
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On 2015-08-27 1:01 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:<br>
</div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div>
-1<br>
<br>
My vote is motivated by a series of reasons that took me to veto this<br>
motion.<br>
<br>
1) The board has not been provided with sufficient information regarding<br>
past events to evaluate the current request<br>
(I need to see a summary for each past event of: seed money, guarantees,<br>
fee, total expenses, total income, profit, OSGeo revenue)<br>
<br>
2) I don't think OSGeo should be exposed for more then 1 FOSS4G event at<br>
the same time: it increase the risks and 1 year for event organization I<br>
believe is enough. (Next time it could be 100k * 2)<br>
<br>
3) The 2015 FOSS4G event relies on a USD 40,000 seed money which is also<br>
the OSGeo guarantee. We know from past experiences that FOSS4G is more<br>
risky when organized outside Europe or USA, nevetheless we didn't<br>
provided such a guarantee in 2015, thus to be fair I don't think we<br>
shall provide it now without a deep discussion.<br>
<br>
4) Finally (this is more a my common sense evaluation) I don't think it<br>
is raccomandable to take big budget decisions that may affect the coming<br>
board members activities just one week before of the elections.<br>
<br>
I strongly believe that this decision, involving such a great amount of<br>
money, should be postponed and submitted to the new board after the<br>
elections and only having a clear vision of what was the procedure<br>
followed in the past years. In fact, this decision will draw the line to<br>
be followed in the future for every international FOSS4G events.<br>
<br>
<br>
For the above mentioned motivations, acknowledging the impelling need of<br>
money of 2016 FOSS4G organizers, I propose to assign to the Bonn local<br>
committee the amount of USD 40,000 after the signing of afunding<br>
agreement identical to the one approved by the OSGeo board and signed by<br>
the OSGeo president and the Chair of FOSS4G 2015 for the Seoul event.<br>
<br>
Future amendment could be possible if approved an signed by the two parties.<br>
<br>
<br>
Maxi<br>
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2015-08-26 16:54 GMT+02:00 Michael Smith <<a href="mailto:michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com" target="_blank">michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com</a><br></div></div>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com" target="_blank">michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com</a>>>:<span><br>
<br>
+1<br>
<br>
Mike<br>
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<br>
On 8/26/15, 10:49 AM, "Jorge Sanz" <<a href="mailto:board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> on<span><br>
behalf of <a href="mailto:jsanz@osgeo.org" target="_blank">jsanz@osgeo.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jsanz@osgeo.org" target="_blank">jsanz@osgeo.org</a>>> wrote:<br>
<br>
>+1<br>
><br>
>2015-08-26 15:52 GMT+02:00 Bart van den Eijnden <<a href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl" target="_blank">bartvde@osgis.nl</a><br></span>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:bartvde@osgis.nl" target="_blank">bartvde@osgis.nl</a>>>:<span><br>
>> Thanks for moving this Jeff.<br>
>><br>
>> +1<br>
>><br>
>> Bart<br>
>><br>
>>> On 26 Aug 2015, at 15:49, Jeff McKenna<br></span>
<<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>>><span><br>
>>>wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Board,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I've spoken with Till this morning and this is time sensitive.<br>
Please<br>
>>>respond within 2 business days.<br>
>>><br>
>>> ***<br>
>>> Motion: Set aside 100k euros for the guarantee of the FOSS4G 2016<br>
>>>event in Bonn, and to provide 50k euros from that amount, to the<br>
Bonn<br>
>>>local committee as seed funding. Terms of the agreement will be put<br>
>>>into writing and signed by the chair of 2016 and OSGeo, and<br>
approved by<br>
>>>the OSGeo Board.<br>
>>> ***<br>
>>><br>
>>> This vote will help allow Till to start signing contracts etc.<br>
>>><br>
>>> -jeff<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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