<div dir="ltr">Following Maxi's comment: +1 too<div><br></div><div>J</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">čt 10. 9. 2015 v 23:19 odesílatel Michael Smith <<a href="mailto:michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com">michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com</a>> napsal:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Please correct me if I'm wrong but just waiting on Gerald for vote.<br>
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Michael Smith<br>
Remote Sensing/GIS Center<br>
US Army Corps of Engineers<br>
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> On Sep 10, 2015, at 5:11 PM, Anne Ghisla <<a href="mailto:a.ghisla@gmail.com" target="_blank">a.ghisla@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> +1 I hope I'm not too late<br>
> a.<br>
><br>
>> On September 10, 2015 7:32:09 PM CEST, Mike & Jennifer Woods / Smith <<a href="mailto:michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com" target="_blank">michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Hoping to get your votes soonest so I can get to the bank if approved.<br>
>><br>
>> I have located some branches in NYC where I'll be tomorrow so if it's<br>
>> not<br>
>> approved until then, I'll try to do the wire from NYC, but I don't know<br>
>> if<br>
>> it will be a problem or not.<br>
>><br>
>> Michael Smith<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:42 PM, Vasile Craciunescu<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:vasile@geo-spatial.org" target="_blank">vasile@geo-spatial.org</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> +1<br>
>><br>
>> Vasile<br>
>><br>
>> Sent from my mobile device<br>
>><br>
>> On 10 Sep 2015, at 19:34, Massimiliano Cannata <<br>
>> <a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch" target="_blank">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> +1<br>
>> to provide 50,000€ seed money without agreement on guarantee that will<br>
>> be<br>
>> discussed and decided in the next board meeting.<br>
>><br>
>> If others vote in few minutes I think we could make the payment,<br>
>> otherwise<br>
>> we need to wait until Mike is back.<br>
>><br>
>> Maxi<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> 2015-09-10 18:24 GMT+02:00 Jeff McKenna<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>>:<br>
>><br>
>>> Thanks Maxi, for your detailed explanation. I also appreciate that<br>
>> you<br>
>>> took the time to also propose a temporary workaround, and not just a<br>
>> simple<br>
>>> "-1". Thank you.<br>
>>><br>
>>> As Maxi requests, the guarantee and written agreement will have to<br>
>> wait<br>
>>> until the new board reviews it. I support Maxi's new motion, +1, but<br>
>> I<br>
>>> would re-write it as:<br>
>>><br>
>>> ***<br>
>>> Motion to immediately provide an advance payment of 50,000 euros to<br>
>> FOSS4G<br>
>>> e.V for FOSS4G-2016, and for the next OSGeo Board to review all<br>
>> details of<br>
>>> the "Agreement-between-OSGeo-and-FOSSGISeV-2016" document, including<br>
>> the<br>
>>> event guarantee.<br>
>>> ***<br>
>>><br>
>>> -jeff<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>>> On 2015-09-10 12:43 PM, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -1<br>
>>>> Maxi<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> This new motion on a modified version of the agreement between OSGeo<br>
>> and<br>
>>>> FOSSGIS do not find my agreement.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Rational for my vote is:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> A) past events do not seems to have been guarantee, so this is not<br>
>> the<br>
>>>> common practice adopted in the past but rather a strong change in<br>
>> OSGeo<br>
>>>> policy<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> B) I would make, as I have already proposed, the way around: no<br>
>>>> guarantee but possible in future if approved by the board (not<br>
>> guarantee<br>
>>>> and then some reserve to modify it)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 1) The board has not been provided with sufficient information<br>
>> regarding<br>
>>>> past events to evaluate the current request (I need to see a summary<br>
>> for<br>
>>>> each past event of: seed money, guarantees, fee, total expenses,<br>
>> total<br>
>>>> income, profit, OSGeo revenue)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2) I don't think OSGeo should be exposed for more then 1 FOSS4G<br>
>> event<br>
>>>> at the same time: it increase the risks and 1 year for event<br>
>>>> organization I believe is enough. (Next time it could be 100k * 2)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 3) The 2015 FOSS4G event relies on a USD 40,000 seed money which is<br>
>> also<br>
>>>> the OSGeo guarantee. We know from past experiences that FOSS4G is<br>
>> more<br>
>>>> risky when organized outside Europe or USA, nevertheless we didn't<br>
>>>> provided such a guarantee in 2015, thus to be fair I don't think we<br>
>>>> shall provide it now without a deep discussion.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 4) Finally (this is more a my common sense evaluation) I don't think<br>
>> it<br>
>>>> is raccomandable to take big budget decisions that may affect the<br>
>> coming<br>
>>>> board members activities just one week before of the elections.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> *I strongly believe that this decision, involving such a great<br>
>> amount of<br>
>>>> money, should be postponed and submitted to the new board after the<br>
>>>> elections and only having a clear vision of what was the procedure<br>
>>>> followed in the past years. In fact, this decision will draw the<br>
>> line to<br>
>>>> be followed in the future for every international FOSS4G events.*<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Therefore I make a new motion: to provide 50,000 USD to Advance and<br>
>> NO<br>
>>>> GUARANTEE exceeding the seed money as per below:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> (I cannot make direct changes in the document because only PDF has<br>
>> been<br>
>>>> shared, so I'm pasting here my proposal)<br>
>> =====================================================================================================================================================<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> *Agreement between OSGeo and FOSSGIS e.V. for finances to support<br>
>> FOSS4G<br>
>>>> 2016 *<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> *Parties*<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> * The Open Source Geospatial Foundation (OSGeo) of 14525 SW<br>
>> Millikan<br>
>>>> #42523 Beaverton, OR 970052343 FOSSGIS e.V.,<br>
>>>> * the Local Organising Committee (LOC) of FOSS4G 2016 in Bonn,<br>
>> Germany<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> *Agreement *<br>
>>>> 1.This agreement determines the financial arrangements between the<br>
>> LOC<br>
>>>> and/or PCO and OSGeo.<br>
>>>> This agreement<br>
>>>> a. supersedes any other written or verbal agreement between<br>
>> OSGeo<br>
>>>> and the LOC<br>
>>>> b. supersedes any other written or verbal agreement between LOC<br>
>> and<br>
>>>> the PCO<br>
>>>> 2. The LOC has requested an Advance to cover part of the anticipated<br>
>>>> costs of hosting the FOSS4G event (see Schedule)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> *OSGeo commitments *<br>
>>>> 4. OSGeo will provide the Advance detailed in the Schedule to the<br>
>> LOC on<br>
>>>> request<br>
>>>> 5. OSGeo agrees to underwrite potential losses of the Event up to<br>
>> the<br>
>>>> maximum detailed in the Schedule<br>
>>>> 6. OSGeo will delegate a financial representative to join the LOC<br>
>>>> 7. OSGeo confirms that it will be possible to increase the OSGeo<br>
>>>> guarantee by means of new amendment approved by the board<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> *LOC commitments *<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 8. The LOC will hold all Event funds in a dedicated bank account and<br>
>>>> will maintain a full record of all income and expenditure<br>
>>>> 9. The Advance will be repaid to OSGeo by the LOC within 30 days of<br>
>> the<br>
>>>> end of the Event<br>
>>>> 10. The LOC will provide a monthly report of financial matters<br>
>>>> (expenses, receipts and forecasts)<br>
>>>> a. The LOC will keep the OSGeo financial representative apprised<br>
>> of<br>
>>>> any financial forecasts, alterations, commitments and risks<br>
>>>> b. The Financial representative shall have the right to request<br>
>>>> changes to commitments and plans and as a last resort the right to<br>
>>>> cancel this guarantee if recommendations are not accepted<br>
>>>> 11. The LOC acknowledges that any financial liabilities in excess of<br>
>> the<br>
>>>> maximum guarantee will be the responsibility of the LOC or will be<br>
>>>> insured locally by the LOC<br>
>>>> 12. The LOC will not pay to itself (or any of its individual<br>
>> members)<br>
>>>> any fees for services provided with the exception of reasonable out<br>
>> of<br>
>>>> pocket expenses for travel etc.<br>
>>>> 13. The LOC agrees to remit at least 90% of any surplus generated to<br>
>>>> OSGeo to support future events and other OSGeo activities<br>
>>>> a. A Surplus is defined as the net balance of revenues<br>
>> (delegates,<br>
>>>> sponsors and any other sources) and expenses (venue, services, PCO<br>
>> etc)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Schedule<br>
>>>> LOC FOSSGIS e.V.<br>
>>>> PCO FOSSGIS e.V.<br>
>>>> Event details FOSS4G 2016, Bonn, Germany<br>
>>>> Advance payment €50,000<br>
>>>> Additional guarantee €0<br>
>>>> Maximum total OSGeo financial exposure €50,000<br>
>>>> %age of event profits returned to OSGeo 90%<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> *Acceptance*<br>
>>>> By their signatures below, the authorized official of each party to<br>
>> this<br>
>>>> agreement represents that they are duly authorized to sign this<br>
>>>> agreement and bind their respective organization.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> For The Open Source Geospatial Foundation:<br>
>>>> For FOSSGIS e.V. Name :<br>
>> =====================================================================================================================================================<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>> 2015-09-10 14:42 GMT+02:00 Fenoy Gerald <<a href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr" target="_blank">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr" target="_blank">gerald.fenoy@geolabs.fr</a>>>:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> +1<br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> Le 9 sept. 2015 à 18:34, Jeff McKenna<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com" target="_blank">jmckenna@gatewaygeomatics.com</a>>> a écrit :<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Thanks Eli,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> This document is very well done by the Conference Committee,<br>
>> and<br>
>>>> can/will be used for each future FOSS4G event.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Board: I've received word that Till needs to start signing<br>
>> and<br>
>>>> providing funds by the end of this week, so we have a real<br>
>> deadline<br>
>>>> here. I would like to make sure that by the end of<br>
>>>> tomorrow/Thursday we wire the advance/seed money (50k euros) to<br>
>>>> their dedicated account. This document has been approved by<br>
>> many<br>
>>>> keen eyes, a lot has went into it. I therefore motion to the<br>
>> Board:<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> ***<br>
>>>>> Motion to accept the terms of the financial agreement between<br>
>>>> FOSS4G e.V and the OSGeo foundation, per the terms in the<br>
>> document<br>
>>>> "Agreement-between-OSGeo-and-FOSSGISeV-2016", to support FOSS4G<br>
>>>> 2016. Per that document, the advance payment will be provided to<br>
>>>> FOSS4G e.V by 10 September 2015.<br>
>>>>> ***<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> -jeff<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On 2015-09-09 1:03 PM, Eli Adam wrote:<br>
>>>>>> Board of Directors,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> The Conference Committee (with input from Till and Board<br>
>>>> members) has<br>
>>>>>> refined and passed a proposed agreement for 2016 FOSS4G seed<br>
>>>> money and<br>
>>>>>> financial guarantee [0]. Here is a direct download [1] or<br>
>> view<br>
>>>> in svn<br>
>>>>>> [2].<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Please schedule discussion and voting so that FOSS4G 2016<br>
>> can<br>
>>>> continue<br>
>>>>>> their preparations. I've placed it on the next Board<br>
>> meeting<br>
>>>> agenda<br>
>>>>>> [3] as a good place to keep track of it and take notes.<br>
>> However,<br>
>>>> an<br>
>>>>>> email vote before then is needed.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>>> From the Conference Committee, Steven and Cameron have<br>
>> worked to<br>
>>>>>> ensure that appropriate OSGeo funds are available over the<br>
>> needed<br>
>>>>>> durations. They have also worked with Till to get an<br>
>> accurate<br>
>>>> risk<br>
>>>>>> exposure estimate through the period of time leading up to<br>
>>>> decision<br>
>>>>>> points. Jeff and other Board members have also<br>
>> substantially<br>
>>>>>> contributed to this process.<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Thanks and best regards,<br>
>>>>>> Eli (on behalf of the Conference Committee)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> [0] Discussion:<br>
>> <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2015-September/003196.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2015-September/003196.html</a><br>
>>>>>> [1]<br>
>> <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/export/12525/foss4g/2016/financial_stuff/agreement_with_osgeo/Agreement-between-OSGeo-and-FOSSGISeV-2016.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/export/12525/foss4g/2016/financial_stuff/agreement_with_osgeo/Agreement-between-OSGeo-and-FOSSGISeV-2016.pdf</a><br>
>>>>>> [2]<br>
>> <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/foss4g/2016/financial_stuff/agreement_with_osgeo/Agreement-between-OSGeo-and-FOSSGISeV-2016.pdf" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/browser/foss4g/2016/financial_stuff/agreement_with_osgeo/Agreement-between-OSGeo-and-FOSSGISeV-2016.pdf</a><br>
>>>>>> [3]<br>
>> <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-10-15#Current_items" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-10-15#Current_items</a><br>
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