<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Thanks Jody. In this case I don't think there is any ambiguity reading in the sentence. I'll leave it as it is. On the opposite with respect to the previous comment, that related to "geodatabase", I changed this word with "geospatial database". </div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Many thanks to the Board for considering my request.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Lovely Sunday.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Maria<br><br><div><b style="font-size: 13pt; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">----------------------------------------------------</b></div><div><div id="Signature"><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="margin: 0px;"><div><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></b></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli<br>Vice Rector for Como Campus and GIS Professor<br>Politecnico di Milano</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">ISPRS WG IV/5 "Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and Applications"; OSGeo; GeoForAll Advisory Board; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET </span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Sol Katz Award 2015</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div></div><div name="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="margin: 0px;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font><font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><a href="x-apple-data-detectors://1/0" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="address" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1/0">Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO</a> (ITALY)</p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">Tel. <a href="tel:+39-031-3327336" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1/1">+39-031-3327336</a> - Mob. <a href="tel:+39-328-0023867" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1/2">+39-328-0023867</a> - fax. <a href="tel:+39-031-3327321" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="telephone" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1/3">+39-031-3327321</a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;">e-mail1: <a id="NoLP" href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" tabindex="0"></a><a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="1/4">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><a id="NoLP" tabindex="0">e-mail2</a>: <a href="mailto:prorettrice@como.polimi.it" x-apple-data-detectors="true" x-apple-data-detectors-type="link" x-apple-data-detectors-result="2">prorettrice@como.polimi.it</a></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt;"><br></p></font></font></span></div></div></div></div><div><br>Il giorno 06 dic 2015, alle ore 05:29, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">English is indeed weird! The name of the conference is fine, indeed the sentence is fine - I just wondered if we wanted to be more specific in this government communication. <br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 2:55 PM Maria Brovelli <<a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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But, just for clarity, does it mean that <br>
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FOSS4G (Free and Open Source Software for Geo) is wrong? or at
least somebody can think that we are interested in free and close
software?<br>
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Because I, with my poor English, interpret "free and open source"
as "free and, at the same time, open" not "or free or open".<br>
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Therefore really the name of our conferences is wrong?<br>
English is so weird :-D</div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><br>
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<div dir="ltr">Sorry will try again - consider changing the
sentence to: "by means of open-source tools,"
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<div>The use of the word free can include software that is free
to use, but not open source. I remember in Brazil open source
was having a hard time gaining traction as a university GIS
system was available for free in the market, but it was not
open source.</div>
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<div>If you believe your bid is price sensitive consider
changing the sentence to "by means of free open-source
tools,".<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 4 December 2015 at 12:41,
Maria Antonia Brovelli <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" target="_blank">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>></span>
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<div>Sorry but the second point is not clear to me.
What do you mean? The project refers to free and
open source software. What has OSGeo against free
and open source software? </div>
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<div>Maria</div>
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<div>Inviato dal mio dispositivo Samsung</div>
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Da: Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> <br>
Data: 04/12/2015 21:18 (GMT+01:00) <br>
A: Maria Antonia Brovelli <<a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" target="_blank"></a><a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" target="_blank">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>>
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Cc: OSGeo-Board <<a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>> <br>
Oggetto: Re: [Board] Italian Project <br>
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<div dir="ltr">One small clarification, the
"geodatabase to be published by free and
open source tools".
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<div>Can we avoid the words geodatabase,
although it is a descriptive name - it is
also the name of a proprietary file
format. </div>
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<div>OSGeo may also wish to revise the above
to be limited to "open-source" tools - we
are an advocate for software libre after
all (Just being free is not enough).</div>
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at 07:36, Maria Brovelli <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" target="_blank">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>></span>
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<div><small><small><big><small>Dear
OSGeo Board Members
</small></big></small><br>
<small><big><small>together with
colleagues of other italian
universities we are writing a
proposal in answering the
current call of the Italian
Ministry of University. We are
proposing a reseach</small>
</big><small><big>based of urban
geo big data (abstract
attached).</big></small></small><br>
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<small><small><big>The units
involved are: </big></small></small><br>
<small><small><big>Politecnico di
Milano (PI) Maria Brovelli </big></small></small><br>
<small><small><big>Politecnico di
Torino, Piero Boccardo </big></small></small><br>
<small><small><big>La Sapienza
University Rome, Mattia Crespi
</big></small></small><br>
<small><small><big>Padua University,
Francesco Pirotti </big></small></small><br>
<small><small><big>CNR, Riccardo
Lanari </big></small></small><br>
<small><small><big>ISPRA, Michele
Munafò</big></small> </small><br>
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<div><small><small>The project is
based on open data and open<big><big>
</big></big><small><big><big>GIS</big></big>
</small>software. I wonder if,
as <b>
OSGeo</b>, you may/want to
provide an endorsement letter. <br>
In case, I'm attaching a draft
where simply you say that the
project is of interest.
Obviously feel free to modify or
add what you want.<br>
The deadline for me to receive
such a letter is December 18th.<br>
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Many thanks! Have a lovely week
end. <br>
<span>Maria</span></small></small><big>
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Prof. Maria Antonia Brovelli
Vice Rector for Como Campus and GIS Professor
Politecnico di Milano
ISPRS WG IV/5 "Web and Cloud Based Geospatial Services and Applications"; OSGeo; ICA-OSGeo-ISPRS AB; NASA WorldWind Europa Challenge; SIFET
Sol Katz Award 2015
Via Natta, 12/14 - 22100 COMO (ITALY)
Tel. +39-031-3327336 - Mob. +39-328-0023867 - fax. +39-031-3327321
e-mail1: <a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" target="_blank">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>
e-mail2: <a href="mailto:prorettrice@como.polimi.it" target="_blank">prorettrice@como.polimi.it</a></pre>
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