<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>+1 Sanghee<br><br>Kind regards,<br><div>Marc Vloemans</div><div><br></div></div><div><br>Op 12 okt. 2016 om 11:10 heeft Sanghee Shin <<a href="mailto:shshin@gaia3d.com">shshin@gaia3d.com</a>> het volgende geschreven:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8">Dear all, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">OSGeo is a community of communities and not a centralised organisation. I don’t believe Board could set up or apply any single clear governance rule for the whole committees. If there’s any weird(to some) governance procedure in any committees, that’s also the part of the committees’s long history that started before OSGeo. I support the autonomy of each committee which knows the real matter there. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers, </div><div class="">
신상희<br class="">---<br class="">Shin, Sanghee<br class="">Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company<br class=""><a href="http://www.gaia3d.com" class="">http://www.gaia3d.com</a>
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<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">2016. 10. 11., 오후 3:26, Maria Antonia Brovelli <<a href="mailto:maria.brovelli@polimi.it" class="">maria.brovelli@polimi.it</a>> 작성:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div id="divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: 12pt; font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">For completeness, the main point under discussion was the one related to voting procedures.</div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""></p><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">"Everyday topics will be decided upon by an open vote of all list participants in a clearly designated separate mail thread (+1/-1) over a minimum of two business days <b class="">with a minimum participation of 3 votes.</b> Ideally we aim for consensus falling back on simple majority vote where necessary. The result will be clearly declared afterwards (or whatever is decided)."</pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">I believed (and still believe) that for important decisions as those of the CC, we need more participation in voting, i.e. a quorum of 50 %.</pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">As far as I have understood there is a handful of such decisions a year.</pre><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap;" class="">After a long discussion about this topic, what was suggested by many volunteers (of the CC or not of the CC) is that the governance has to be decided by the Board and the CC decides only on the Conferences.</pre>Here we are: we will discuss this topic in next Board meeting.<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">An for precision: when we made this discussion and I proposed to put the decision of governance in the hand of the Board, I was not in the Board. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; 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width: 708.53125px;" class=""><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr" class=""><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size: 11pt;" class=""><b class="">Da:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Board <<a href="mailto:board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" class="">board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>> per conto di Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" class="">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><b class="">Inviato:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>lunedì 10 ottobre 2016 22.38<br class=""><b class="">A:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Anita Graser; <a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org" class="">board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Oggetto:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Board] UN Meeting</font><div class=""> </div></div></div><font size="2" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;" class=""><div class="PlainText"><br class=""><br class="">On 11/10/2016 4:53 AM, Anita Graser wrote:<br class="">> The board micro-managed the conference com? (I'm asking because I<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> have not read the entire thread on the conf mailing list.) Any way,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> lets try not to repeat this process with the UNCom.<br class="">Hi Anita,<br class="">I suggest read the thread embedded into my last email I've just CCed to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">the board.<br class="">It doesn't include everything, but does include enough that you should<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">get an idea.<br class=""><br class="">The quick summary:<br class="">* After a conference committee face-to-face meeting at FOSS4G, Steven<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">took on an action to clarify conference committee procedures.<br class="">* He did this, put it out for comment, actioned feedback, then put to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">the proposal to vote<br class="">* He received positive feedback from majority of the conference<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">committee, and two -1 vetos from Venka and Maria (who are also on the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">board).<br class="">* This resulted in 120+ emails, and a stalemate.<br class="">* Maria has suggested to solve the problem of voting rules by putting on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">the board agenda. (Hence the implication of being micro-managed by the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">board)<br class=""><br class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Cameron Shorter<br class="">M +61 419 142 254<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Board mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org" class="">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board" class="">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a></div></span></font></div></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Board mailing list</span><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>Board mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board">http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a></span></div></blockquote></body></html>