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<p>Yes, but in principle also Directors are elected every year, at the beginning of the year</p>
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<p><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">At the first annual meeting of members and at each annual meeting thereafter, the members shall elect directors to hold office until the next succeeding annual meeting. </span><br>
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<p><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">which doesn't happen.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">Probably we need to take some time for revising the Bylaws.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12.8px;">But as I imagine we don't want to stop our activities in between, we will find some solutions as it was made up to now.</span></p>
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<div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>Da:</b> Board <board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org> per conto di Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl) <gert-jan@osgeo.nl><br>
<b>Inviato:</b> mercoledì 26 ottobre 2016 12.40<br>
<b>A:</b> Massimiliano Cannata; Cameron Shorter; Dirk frigne<br>
<b>Cc:</b> OSGeo Board<br>
<b>Oggetto:</b> Re: [Board] vice president discussion</font>
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<div class="PlainText">Maxi, Dirk, Cameron,<br>
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The formal part:<br>
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Our bylaws [1] (see article V) state that we have a Board of Directors <br>
and besides that four Officers (chair of the board, president (the <br>
"CEO"), treasurer, secretary).<br>
These Officers don't have to be members of the Board. They are appointed <br>
by the Board.<br>
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A bit surprising to me: this appointment is just for one year (see <br>
section 5.2)<br>
Even more suprising to me: an individual can hold more than one office <br>
(so anybody can be the chair of the board, as well as president, as well <br>
as treasurer, as well as secretary at the same time<br>
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Generally the relationship between the Board of Directors and the <br>
Officers is that the Board sets up the strategy (the way to go), and <br>
that the Officers are in charge of making this happen (which is: <br>
actually running the daily business).<br>
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An example in our case is the role of secretary, which is still <br>
fulfilled by Jackym (not being a member of the Board)<br>
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[1] <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html">http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/incorporation/bylaws.html</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://delcode.delaware.gov/title8/c001/sc04/index.shtml">http://delcode.delaware.gov/title8/c001/sc04/index.shtml</a><br>
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Massimiliano Cannata schreef op 25-10-2016 22:31:<br>
> Dear all<br>
> This discussion to me is not on the right direction.<br>
> When the current president was elected taking the Jeff vacancies, we<br>
> agreed that two other board members from other continents will be<br>
> selected as vice-president to support locally the work of the<br>
> president.<br>
> <br>
> Now a new board is in place and fill the Dirk position with another<br>
> European director.<br>
> <br>
> That's all to me.<br>
> <br>
> Nothing to do with satisfaction, enthusiasm and nothing personal.<br>
> <br>
> Have we ever had a president which was not a director? I don't think<br>
> but maybe I'm wrong.<br>
> <br>
> Best wishes.<br>
> <br>
> Il 25 ott 2016 10:21 PM, "Cameron Shorter" <cameron.shorter@gmail.com><br>
> ha scritto:<br>
> <br>
>> Dirk, others,<br>
>> <br>
>> I'd suggest there might be a 3rd reason for selecting a new<br>
>> president or vice-president. It might just be that a new person<br>
>> happens to be more enthusiastic, have some more time, be more<br>
>> practical, be better known, ... It doesn't always mean a person will<br>
>> be better at the role.<br>
>> <br>
>> I suggest that the most successful open source communities work as a<br>
>> bottom-up organisation, rather than top-down. Successful Open Source<br>
>> projects are usually based on the principles of Do-ocracy,<br>
>> Merit-ocracy and rough consensus. Anyone and everyone is encouraged<br>
>> to contribute on their own terms, and any official officer is more a<br>
>> facilitator than a decision maker. We limit ourselves as a community<br>
>> of we over-emphasise the importance of specific roles.<br>
>> <br>
>> So yes, we should be mindful of people's feelings, but we should<br>
>> also make the space for anyone to contribute to whatever level they<br>
>> wish, rather than focusing on specific positions of power.<br>
>> <br>
>> Warm regards, Cameron<br>
>> <br>
>> On 25/10/2016 8:11 PM, Dirk Frigne wrote:<br>
>> Venka,<br>
>> Jody,<br>
>> <br>
>> Thank you for the clarification.<br>
>> I think no matter what decision the board takes, it is good to take<br>
>> into<br>
>> account that people 'invest' in their role and continuity gives the<br>
>> opportunity to get a better result /investment for that role.<br>
>> <br>
>> imho their can be 2 reasons for the board to change an officer:<br>
>> <br>
>> 1. the officer is resigning, and I think we always should accept<br>
>> that.<br>
>> In that case it is the responsibility of the board to find another<br>
>> voluntair.<br>
>> <br>
>> 2. the board is not satisfied with the way the officer is doing his<br>
>> Job<br>
>> for any reason.<br>
>> In that case I think the board should discuss this with the officer<br>
>> and<br>
>> try to find an elegant way to proceed.<br>
>> <br>
>> If we respect these rules I think we can help OSGeo grow further in<br>
>> a<br>
>> good way.<br>
>> <br>
>> just my 2c.<br>
>> <br>
>> Dirk<br>
>> <br>
>> On 25/10/2016 04:03, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:<br>
>> Dear Dirk and Board,<br>
>> <br>
>> I am sorry for the confusion inadvertently caused due to<br>
>> insufficient understanding and recollection of the earlier<br>
>> board decision on my part.<br>
>> <br>
>> I was under the impression that the board decision at f2f in Jan<br>
>> 2016<br>
>> was for having term of present President and Vice President same as<br>
>> the tenure they will be serving on the board. As per the notes that<br>
>> Jody<br>
>> has quoted below, my understanding was incorrect and the board<br>
>> needed to<br>
>> select our President and Vice Presidents at our last meeting held on<br>
>> 20 Oct. 2016.<br>
>> <br>
>> The selection needs to be made urgently as there are several matters<br>
>> to be taken up by our President and Vice-President. I suggest that<br>
>> we take this up at our next board meeting scheduled for 3 November<br>
>> 2016.<br>
>> <br>
>> Best<br>
>> <br>
>> Venka<br>
>> <br>
>> P.S. I have also responded to Dirk's mail on related topic<br>
>> privately, as<br>
>> per his request.<br>
>> <br>
>> On 2016/10/25 9:36, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
>> Dirk I was able to get some answers by digging into notes for<br>
>> <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Face_to_Face_Meeting_2016">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Face_to_Face_Meeting_2016</a> [1]<br>
>> <br>
>> *President and Vice President Election*<br>
>> <br>
>> - *HM nominated VR as president*<br>
>> - *VR accepted nomination*<br>
>> - *All in favour*<br>
>> - *VR elected as OSGeo President*<br>
>> - *HM and DF nominated as Vice President*<br>
>> - *All in favour*<br>
>> - *Term of this President/VP:Until the next board initial<br>
>> meeting<br>
>> after new board election.*<br>
>> - *DF(Suggestion): need to change board members 2 yrs term to<br>
>> 3 yrs.<br>
>> This is a part of strategic plan of OSGeo.(JG)*<br>
>> <br>
>> It looks like the term for the President and Vice Presidents has<br>
>> elapsed,<br>
>> and this meeting on Oct 20th was the intended time to choose new<br>
>> officers.... and since I was away those present pushed this<br>
>> conversation<br>
>> off to an email discussion.<br>
>> <br>
>> --<br>
>> Jody Garnett<br>
>> <br>
>> On 24 October 2016 at 17:33, Jody Garnett <jody.garnett@gmail.com><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> aside: taking this into a seperate thread, since it is a change of<br>
>> topic.<br>
>> <br>
>> Looking into this Dirk, sorry I was working and could not attend the<br>
>> meeting:<br>
>> <br>
>> *14:26:06 venka: Agenda 6: Selecting OSGeo Vice-President*<br>
>> *14:26:55 helena_: it would be good to have somebody with industry<br>
>> contacts for the second vice-president*<br>
>> *14:26:56 vcraciunescu: this should also be postponed for a meeting<br>
>> when<br>
>> all board members will attend*<br>
>> *14:27:06 kalxas: vcraciunescu, +1*<br>
>> *14:27:09 maria: +1*<br>
>> *14:27:11 helena_: yes, I think it would be good to have Jody*<br>
>> *14:27:16 venka: I suggest we start a thread on loomio and select<br>
>> our new<br>
>> VP*<br>
>> <br>
>> Checking Loomio there is indeed a discussion / motion<br>
>> <br>
>> *https://www.loomio.org/d/jWiY2zLA/vice-president [2]<br>
>> <<a href=""></a>https://www.loomio.org/d/jWiY2zLA/vice-president [2]>*<br>
>> <br>
>> So yeah I confess myself confused on this one, we have no<br>
>> requirement for<br>
>> our officers to be board members - and I feel you are fulfilling<br>
>> your role<br>
>> very well (and had some activities scheduled as our vice-president<br>
>> that I<br>
>> would hate to interrupt).<br>
>> <br>
>> Let us assume that this was an assumption each vice-president had to<br>
>> be a<br>
>> board member; rather than any reflection on your capabilities or<br>
>> commitment.<br>
>> <br>
>> While our organization does not have a director we tend to lean on<br>
>> the<br>
>> office of president to pick up activities. Backing Venka up with two<br>
>> vice-presidents is one way of picking up the strain (since we would<br>
>> like<br>
>> Venka to remain cheerful).<br>
>> --<br>
>> Jody Garnett<br>
>> <br>
>> On 24 October 2016 at 00:03, Dirk Frigne <dirk.frigne@geosparc.com><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> Hi Venka,<br>
>> <br>
>> I see on the committees page that my Offices role as Vice president<br>
>> is<br>
>> erased, and today I see on loomino a nomination for a new Vice<br>
>> President.<br>
>> I didn't see a motion in the board to dismiss me as an OSGeo<br>
>> Officer.<br>
>> If you did, and of course the board has the right to do this, it is<br>
>> polite to let me know. Maybe in advance if possible.<br>
>> <br>
>> In an organisation where these positions are paid, this is<br>
>> obligated. I<br>
>> think it hows at least some respect when the position was executed<br>
>> voluntarly to act in the same way.<br>
>> <br>
>> Can I also knwo (in private please) the reason why I was dismissed<br>
>> from<br>
>> my function?<br>
>> <br>
>> Thanks in advance,<br>
>> <br>
>> Dirk Frigne<br>
>> Vice president OSGeo<br>
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