<div dir="ltr">We have a few more weeks left on our evaluation of loomio:<div>- So far I like the fact that it makes making voting clear, it is easier to follow then voting email threads</div><div>- but agree that discussion is not being effective </div><div><br></div><div><div>My take is that we need more discussion before these meetings to be effective. With checking the email list (or loomio) every 1 to 2 days communication is not quite smooth enough to form a conversation.</div><div><br></div><div>I quite liked having the breakout session to go over committee guidelines (it was an easier conversation). There is still room to improve, example - ensure we record action items (and follow up on them).</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 4 November 2016 at 19:14, Venkatesh Raghavan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raghavan@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp" target="_blank">raghavan@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear Board,<br>
<br>
I prefer that discussion on such matters take place on the board<br>
mailing list to which more than a hundred of our members<br>
(with or without board experience) are subscribed rather that<br>
on loomio where only 10 of our members have currently joined.<br>
<br>
My view on "MOT5: Accept nominations for President and Vice-President<br>
from members with experience on the board"<br>
<br>
a) To the best of my knowledge, the board has not set any precedence<br>
wherein the President was not an member elected by our charter members.<br>
<br>
b) OSGeo regional Vice-President was new position that was created<br>
in January 2016 with the aim of sharing the workload with<br>
the President and board. There is no precedence of Vice-Presidents being<br>
appointed from outside of our elected* board membership.<br>
<br>
(*In some instances we have the precedence of board member<br>
vacancies being filled in by members who had secured highest number<br>
of votes among the candidates who contested for the election<br>
but had not been been elected)<br>
<br>
c) We also do not have a precedence of calling for nominations<br>
from outside the Board to fill in the positions of President and<br>
newly created positions of regional Vice-Presidents.<br>
<br>
d) I feel that for the smooth conduct of the day-to-day affairs<br>
of OSGeo, the President and regional Vice-Presidents should<br>
be members *elected* to the board who can cast their valid vote<br>
on motions brought before the board.<br>
<br>
e) Our bylaws do permit us to appoint officers to our committees<br>
from our charter members (as in the case of Treasurer, Secretary,<br>
Project Officers, Committees) or even outside of the charter<br>
membership.<br>
<br>
f) I am all for making full use of the rich experience and tremendous<br>
capabilities of charter members (with or without board experience).<br>
However, I would like to reiterate my view of the President and regional<br>
Vice-President being appointed by the board from among the elected<br>
board members.<br>
<br>
In light of the above, I strongly disagree with "MOT5:<br>
Accept nominations for President and Vice-President from<br>
members with experience on the board" and suggest that we<br>
continue with our existing practice of appointing the OSGeo President<br>
and regional Vice-Presidents from among the elected board<br>
members.<br>
<br>
I have pasted a link of this mail to the MOT5 thread currently<br>
being voted on loomio and have also voted on MOT5 expressing<br>
my (strong) disagreement to MOT5 on loomio.<br>
<br>
Lastly, I feel that loomio can be used for voting and keeping<br>
a public record of our motions, but the discussions on motions<br>
can be on the open (in rare cases private) board mailing list.<br>
<br>
Best<br>
<br>
Venka<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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