<div dir="ltr"><div>I am sorry you missed your milestone, going to limit my reply to the board list. Cross posting emails to several mailing lists makes it very hard for those only subscribed to one list. The incubation is focused on on-boarding new projects, sharing our standards for open source development (I would ask that it remain focused on this activity). The performance of OSGeo projects is a matter for the board and their respective project officers</div><div><div><br></div><div><div>Cameron there are certainly some projects that no longer meet our requirements to be OSGeo projects. We have two data points:</div></div><div><br></div><div>1) Presentation from maxi indicating not all projects are meeting our expectations. This presentation was shared with the board list but has not resulted in any discussion.</div><div>2) Your email indicating that some osgeo projects are not up to your standards for OSGeo live, and your question about weather these projects should be retired from OSGeo</div><div><br></div><div>The board has two tools for communicating with projects:</div><div>- our project officers are expected to attend board meetings when they have an item to discuss</div><div>- projects are expected to provide a report for the annual general meeting</div><div><br></div><div>I guess I would like to hear from both you and maxi about your experience. Could you attend a board meeting in May to discuss this issue? We have also scheduled a work party hangout for later this month which could be put to use.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="m_-3420462982314796253gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 April 2017 at 17:24, Cameron Shorter <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>OSGeo Marketing and Incubation Committees, OSGeo Board,<br>
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<p>We (the OSGeo-Live team) would welcome broad discussion within
OSGeo about about what projects we might retire from OSGeo-Live.</p>
<p>This is particularly relevant to OSGeo Marketing and Incubation
activities as:</p>
<p>1. OSGeo-Live is a marketing tool for OSGeo projects.</p>
<p>2. I expect that a few of the candidate projects to retire from
OSGeo-Live will be official OSGeo projects, which have previously
passed incubation. A bigger question is whether we should retire
these projects from being considered "OSGeo official projects".<br>
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<div class="m_-3420462982314796253m_-7401992637267225957moz-forward-container">Within the next couple of weeks,
we will be discussing which projects we should be considering for
retirement.<br>
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Warm regards, Cameron<br>
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<pre>Reducing scope of OSGeo-Live for next 11.0 release
18 April 2017
For our next OSGeo-Live release, 11.0, we propose to reduce the number
of packages included, and only support a 64 bit distribution, (32 bit
will be built but not tested or officially supported).
Factors leading to this suggestion include:
1. Some projects have dwindling communities and momentum.
2. Increased OSGeo-Live scope has increased our core maintenance and
testing.
3. Reduced engagement from projects (partly due to less core time spent
reaching out to projects)
4. Missing our first release milestone in 9 years.
From our options of reduce quality, become more efficient, increase
volunteer engagement, find a sponsor to support core activities, and
reduce scope, reducing scope is our most viable and acceptable option.
Other ideas are welcomed.
Questions we will ask in assessing which projects to keep include:
1. Is there an ACTIVE OSGeo-Live liaison person/people for the project?
Prior list is copied to "Contact" column at:
<a class="m_-3420462982314796253m_-7401992637267225957moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMlM8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/spread<wbr>sheets/d/1Q5BaEgQtgw4O1bXyeWMl<wbr>M8XtAOhUgcjZ7Y2O0FZc2H0/edit?<wbr>hl=en_GB#gid=2014800150</a>
2. Has the Project Overview and Quickstart been reviewed and are they
current and complete?
3. Do OpenHub metrics reflect an active and healthy community:
<a class="m_-3420462982314796253m_-7401992637267225957moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://live.osgeo.org/en/metrics.html" target="_blank">https://live.osgeo.org/en/metr<wbr>ics.html</a>
4. Is the project being updated on OSGeo-Live with each release?
Key Milestones
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5-Jun-2017 OSGeo-Live Feature Freeze (final application versions
installed)
19-Jun-2017 OSGeo-Live delivered to UAT (final application versions
installed - Beta stage)
24-Jul-2017 OSGeo-Live Final ISO
14-Aug-2017 FOSS4G 2017 Boston
full schedule:
<a class="m_-3420462982314796253m_-7401992637267225957moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_GB" target="_blank">http://spreadsheets.google.com<wbr>/ccc?key=0Al9zh8DjmU_RdE1SYUN3<wbr>YWJ2N1NpSUczbW9IRWZNclE&hl=en_<wbr>GB</a>
About OSGeo-Live
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based distribution of Geospatial Open Source Software, available via a
Live DVD, Virtual Machine and USB. You can use OSGeo-Live to try a wide
variety of open source geospatial software without installing anything.
Greetings from th OSGeo-Live Team!
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Astrid Emde
Charter Member
Open Source Geospatial Foundation
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