<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I agree with a) as well, I think that at this point the board should stay out of the election process.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Helena</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 21, 2017, at 3:03 PM, Michael Smith <<a href="mailto:michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com" class="">michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><div class="">I would also agree with a.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mike </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);" class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">From: </span> Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" class="">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Date: </span> Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 2:51 PM<br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">To: </span> Angelos Tzotsos <<a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com" class="">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>>, Michael Smith <<a href="mailto:michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com" class="">michael.smith.erdc@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org" class="">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org" class="">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight:bold" class="">Subject: </span> Re: [Board] Current election cycle discussion<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote id="MAC_OUTLOOK_ATTRIBUTION_BLOCKQUOTE" style="BORDER-LEFT: #b5c4df 5 solid; PADDING:0 0 0 5; MARGIN:0 0 0 5;" class="" type="cite">I would prefer (a) because you know we should not need to express our trust again :)<br class=""><br class="">I understand though that this election cycle has raised some uncertainty and I would rather issue a statement of support (b) than see that cycle continue. <br class=""><br class="">I was thinking hard on (c) and then noticed it is not our responsibility. We can hold ourself open to offering assistance of asked, and trust CRO to ask for appropriate assistance if needful. I would feel more comfortable if an already recognized officer was provided for assistance considering director and officer liability etc... <br class=""><br class="">Thanks everyone for being professional on this one (by which I mean careful, considerate, respectful). <br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 11:00 AM Angelos Tzotsos <<a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com" class="">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" type="cite">
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<div class="m_-1309001629606555257moz-cite-prefix">Perhaps we should schedule a meeting
within 24h to discuss election issues raised in the mailing lists,
and then make a public announcement? Or just hear from our CRO and
offer assistance.<br class="">
Personally, I volunteer to help, since I am not involved in the
elections as a candidate.<br class="">
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Best,<br class="">
Angelos</div></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><div class="m_-1309001629606555257moz-cite-prefix"><br class="">
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On 10/21/2017 08:47 PM, Michael Smith wrote:<br class="">
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<pre class="">B publicly, C privately.
I think the CRO has performed amazingly and deserves all our support. To me,
everything has been handled transparently and above board.
Mike
Michael Smith
OSGeo Foundation Treasurer
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From: Board <a class="m_-1309001629606555257moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"><board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org></a> on behalf of Jody Garnett
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Date: Saturday, October 21, 2017 at 1:38 PM
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Subject: [Board] Current election cycle discussion
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<pre class="">Early I spoke up when I was concerned our delay on recognizing new members
would disrupt the ongoing election. This was explicitly the responsibility of
the board and I was careful to ask the CRO and follow their lead.
I would like to ask the board if we should extend any kind of support to our
CRO this week. This election has had hit a number of bumps on the road and I
feel bad that so much is being asked if our CRO.
A) Do nothing, understanding that our CRO is handling things well and has our
trust (this is of course assumed)
B) Explicitly state to reaffirm for our members that the CRO is doing a
difficult job and has our trust.
C) Ask if the CRO wishes any assistance, even if our capacity is reduced.
This is not that fun a discussion, and only half our board is realistically
available. We have also accepted the CRO¹s comittment and balance our respect
for their integrity and our concern for this election placing more
responsibility and attention on their role then usual.
I thought it would be better to start this email thread here, rather than
subject the CRO and board members to another round of questions on discuss. I
suspect some of the questions arise from a misunderstanding of the influence
that board has, especially in the case of elections which very carefully a
hands off affair.
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Jody Garnett
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Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
Charter Member
Open Source Geospatial Foundation
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