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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Both me and Astrid abstained from that
vote.<br>
I do not see any issue here, this has happened with other projects
many times in the past.<br>
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Best,<br>
Angelos<br>
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<pre wrap="">Agreed, that is indeed how it works. The +0 abstain allows us to get a 100%
response rate (needed to pass electronic voting) and we still have a
majority in favour so the motion was passed (needed for robert's rules of
order).
I figure our directors are nominated in part for their community
participation so we can expect that they will have several
responsibilities. And then trust their integrity when voting as a director
(both to acknowledge any conflicting responsibilities and act in keeping
with their office.)
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On 5 November 2017 at 23:21, María Arias de Reyna <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:delawen@gmail.com"><delawen@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Hi,
In my opinion, even if we don't count the votes of the members in
conflict, we have a majority of the board agreeing on this motion. So I
think it makes sense to approve it.
The alternative would be to freeze the incubation of a project until no
member of the board has conflicts. Considering that the incubation is just
the start of a longer process which may or may not succeed, I think it is
healthier to accept the incubation and make sure the conflict of interests
are solved by the end of the process (the sooner, the better).
Regards,
María.
On Mon, Nov 6, 2017 at 5:45 AM, Jody Garnett <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com"><jody.garnett@gmail.com></a>
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<pre wrap="">The following questions on board operation is from Vicky on the
incubation list:
Hello all
*As member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live, I am glad to read that the motion of
considering OSGeo-Live for incubation has passed.*
*I am concerned because the the incubator committee has a member that has
a conflict of interest because is also a member of the PSC of OSGeo-Live
project, and he voted +1.*
*I expressed my concern in the "Juez y Parte" thread of [1], where is
"clear" that there is no guideline of the action to be taken on a committee
member when there is a conflict of interest. (the thread has a link to the
incubator committee guidelines [2])*
*I must say that, at least, the committee member with the conflict of
interest, mentioned his involvement when voting, but he didn't step down
from the committee, or voted in such a way that his vote would not
influence the over all result like a (+0)*
*So, The next step is for the board for approval.*
*And my concern grows thinking on how the board with two board members
also on the PSC of OSGeo-Live, so more conflict of interest.*
*I was doubtful of which was the correct mailing list to make this post.
(Here or Discuss) but having Jody as part of Board, I leave the decision to
him if this new concern of mine "Juez y Parte" but for board making
decision on projects they belong to.*
*I want things made done right. Our project application, as far as I can
see, can be used to make more precise written rules/policies about
conflicts of interest.*
*But what I would not want is someone else in the future, to notice and
make a big fuss/attack of "how bad X person acted when having a conflict of
interest".*
*I wonder if there is a guideline equivalent to the incubator committee
guideline but for board.*
*Regards*
*Vicky*
And the following answer from myself:
*Thanks Vicky, motion is not quite passed yet (waiting on 100% response
for the electronic voting).*
*I note that the <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:board-priv@osgeo.org">board-priv@osgeo.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:board-priv@osgeo.org"><board-priv@osgeo.org></a> list is
available if you have any questions you would like to raise privately.*
*You can see a couple of approaches in play here:*
*- Earlier on the incubation thread I asked the incubation committee to
consider my early involvement with OSGeo live and if it would be a
hindrance to acting as mentor.*
*- During MOT1 voting I responded with +1, noting my role as incubation
chair*
*- During MOT1 voting you can see Angelos abstain with a +0 vote, noting
his role as PSC chair*
*The board has addressed these kind of tensions previously, asking
directors to acknowledge if they are affected by the matter at hand - but
still vote in a responsible fashion as a director of OSGeo. This issue
comes up a lot for directors, because they are part of OSGeo and are
affected by most decisions.*
*With your permission I would like to pass your question and the above
answer to the board email list. I try not to cross post since that leads to
madness.*
Checking the wiki we do have a policy - <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/</a>
Conflict_Of_Interest_Policy
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Angelos Tzotsos, PhD
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