<div><div dir="auto">Angelos, all,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">sorry I didn't mean to jump to any conclusions, maybe I was tricked by my poor understanding of words, but we really have replied to this committee thing in several occasions now, see for example <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-October/010739.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2017-October/010739.html</a> and the same answer was repeated in other occasion, I also remember one email of Helmut citing it. We really don't understand where is the need to frame gsoc into a committee. On the contrary, we would like to stress that gsoc is NOT a committee. When we call for volunteers we want to be very clear that we're not calling to join a committee, as an activity that a volunteer carries out at their own pace. Gsoc has a schedule, that depends on google, decisions must be tackled instantly, not sitting and voting. Any member of the team is entitled to act independently from the others, because otherwise if we need consultation for any action, we're over. The team is action oriented. The members of the team respond on their own action. We do tackle important decisions together, but it doesn't happen as a standard modus operandi. And we don't wait that we reach majority for a decision: when I have a problem I call for the others and who is available replies. Besides, I have been in contact with tens of other organizations participating in gsoc and none of them occurred to have formed a committee, which in my opinion is an unsolicited overcomplication. If all these argument still don't convince you, please just respect our wish to not be a committee.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 at 19:55, Angelos Tzotsos <<a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi Madi,<br>
<br>
Please let's not rush into conclusions.<br>
GSoC has been listed under initiatives:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2018#OSGeo_Initiatives" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Budget_2018#OSGeo_Initiatives</a><br>
so there is no catch there, you can allocate the budget without any<br>
problems.<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Angelos<br>
<br>
On 01/08/2018 08:35 PM, Margherita Di Leo wrote:<br>
> Jody,<br>
><br>
> Il giorno lun 8 gen 2018 alle 18:40 Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br>
> ha scritto:<br>
><br>
>> Started the electronic voting here:<br>
>> <a href="https://www.loomio.org/d/YPeGSkyx/gsoc-2018-participatio" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.loomio.org/d/YPeGSkyx/gsoc-2018-participatio</a><br>
>> <<a href="https://www.loomio.org/d/YPeGSkyx/gsoc-2018-participation" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.loomio.org/d/YPeGSkyx/gsoc-2018-participation</a>>n<br>
>><br>
> Thanks<br>
><br>
>> I during our 2018 budget we talked about setting this up as a committee<br>
>> with a slightly more general mandate.<br>
>><br>
> Honestly, I don’t get this. This idea of forming a committee seems to<br>
> return again and again when we have clearly stated that we are no committee<br>
> and don’t intend to form one, thanks but no thanks.<br>
><br>
> The net result was marking $3000 for the activity, and action item to reach<br>
>> out to this years volunteers.<br>
>><br>
> So if I understand correctly, we cannot be granted this budget as an<br>
> initiative but we must form a committe? Is this what the board decided<br>
> during the last meeting? Sorry if I hadn’t understood that. I’m glad that<br>
> we didn’t allocate these money yet, because at this condition we don’t wish<br>
> to proceed.<br>
> So please let us know if we can prceed at least for gsoc application<br>
> without being a committee, as was done for 11 years now, or else if you<br>
> wish gsoc for OSGeo ends this year.<br>
><br>
> Best regards<br>
><br>
>> --<br>
>> Jody Garnett<br>
>><br>
>> On 8 January 2018 at 06:36, Margherita Di Leo <<a href="mailto:diregola@gmail.com" target="_blank">diregola@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Great! Please let me know if you need any additional info from our side<br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> We can make an electronic motivation to sort this out ahead of deadline.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 3:25 AM Margherita Di Leo <<a href="mailto:diregola@gmail.com" target="_blank">diregola@gmail.com</a>><br>
>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>>> That's great, thank you Angelos. Hope the board doesn't mind if for<br>
>>>>> practical reasons we are going ahead with the organization and eventually<br>
>>>>> the submission of the application which is due by Jan 23. Keeping in mind<br>
>>>>> that in the event of negative answer by the board, we can still withdraw it<br>
>>>>> by that date.<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 12:20 PM, Angelos Tzotsos <<a href="mailto:gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com" target="_blank">gcpp.kalxas@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>>>> wrote:<br>
>>>>>> Dear Margherita,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Thank you for the update.<br>
>>>>>> The next Board meeting is on Jan 17, I have added your request on the<br>
>>>>>> agenda:<br>
>>>>>> <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-01-17" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2018-01-17</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>>>> Angelos<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> On 01/08/2018 12:14 PM, Margherita Di Leo wrote:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Dear members of the Board,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> GSoC 2018 has already opened the applications for open source organizations<br>
>>>>>> [1]. The timing this year makes things a bit hectic because as organization<br>
>>>>>> we are still focussed on GCI contest, which, by the way, is so far a great<br>
>>>>>> success! However, thanks for the great commitment of the members of the<br>
>>>>>> admin team and our mentors, we are still able to make shifts and work on<br>
>>>>>> the application for GSoC at the same time.<br>
>>>>>> So we are writing to the Board to update you about the composition of the<br>
>>>>>> admin team for 2018 edition and to formally receive mandate to act on<br>
>>>>>> behalf of OSGeo, applying for GSoC 2018. The members of the admin team for<br>
>>>>>> 2018 are:<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Florin-Daniel Cioloboc,<br>
>>>>>> Werner Macho,<br>
>>>>>> Helmut Kudrnovsky,<br>
>>>>>> Jeff McKenna,<br>
>>>>>> Margherita Di Leo,<br>
>>>>>> Anne Ghisla (as emeritus - will offer guidance and advise in case of need)<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> Best regards,<br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> [1] <a href="https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>> Board mailing listBoard@lists.osgeo.orghttps://<a href="http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> --<br>
>>>>>> Angelos Tzotsos, PhD<br>
>>>>>> Charter Member<br>
>>>>>> Open Source Geospatial Foundationhttp://<a href="http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">users.ntua.gr/tzotsos</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>>> Board mailing list<br>
>>>>>> <a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
>>>>>> <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
>>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>><br>
>>>>> --<br>
>>>>> Margherita Di Leo<br>
>>>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>>>> Board mailing list<br>
>>>>> <a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
>>>>> <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> --<br>
>>>> Jody Garnett<br>
>>>><br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> --<br>
>>> Margherita Di Leo<br>
>>><br>
>> --<br>
> Margherita Di Leo<br>
><br>
<br>
--<br>
Angelos Tzotsos, PhD<br>
Charter Member<br>
Open Source Geospatial Foundation<br>
<a href="http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos</a><br>
<br>
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