<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks Cameron for wise words - I very much agree,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Helena</div><div class=""><br class=""><div style=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 6, 2018, at 7:31 PM, Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" class="">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Maria,<br class="">
Thank you for stepping forward and offering to drive a CoC
initiative. It is a very worthy and often thankless role. <br class="">
While I won't have much time to give to it, I'm willing to monitor
a CoC email list and help where I can.<br class="">
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With regards to your text below, I suggest that a CoC committee
should focus on language used and any personal attacks, but not on
the topic of conversation. Ie, I think we should drop the second
paragraph (starting: "We want to remind the community that, up
till now, local and regional events are not required to disclose
their budgets and accounts. ")<br class="">
We also shouldn't be re-opening specific issues which appear (from
what I'm exposed to) to have been resolved.<br class="">
I feel we should act swiftly, within days in email threads,
resolve quickly, and move on so that people can move onto more
productive activities. (Digging up an old example is likely to
trigger a new spate of accusing emails.)<br class="">
I don't think we need to lecture the community again on our CoC
principles. They have already been stated in the wrap up of the
latest spate. But we should highlight any new initiatives that is
being put into place.<br class="">
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Eg: reword and simplify to:<br class="">
Recent <b class="">communication </b>in the community have shown that we
have occasionally slipped into unfriendly communication <b class="">opportunities
for improvement</b>. <b class="">To facilitate this a few of us have
volunteered to act as facilitators under the banner of the CoC
committee, with the aim of helping resolving differences
quickly, making sure we have created a safe environment, so that
we can get back to what we do best - creating great open
software, data and communities. If you would like to join us,
then please get in touch.</b><br class="">
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Cheers, Cameron<br class="">
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/08/2018 3:43 AM, Jody Garnett
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<div dir="ltr" class="">One comment, since this a longstanding issue we
could change:
<div class="">> that is unfortunately part of the recent OSGeo culture<br class="">
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<div class="">> that is unfortunately gradually become a part of our
OSGeo culture<br class="">
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<div class="">We could also take out "fighting" with something more
constructive:</div>
<div class="">> We are all fighting for the same goals</div>
<div class="">With:</div>
<div class="">> We are all seeking the same goals</div>
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<div class="">We have chosen examples from recent experience, which in
fine. To be effective we may wish to cast a slightly wider net
to illustrate this is not an isolated event.</div>
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<div class="">> Or culture of openness should is here to empower and
include everyone where we can be effective. It should not be
used aggressively to call our individuals or organizations
that are not in a position to speak.</div>
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<div class="">So in addition to local event organizers:</div>
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<div class="">> Other groups within our organization require a degree
of privacy to operate effectively on our behalf. The board
also requires a degree of privacy to negotiate relationships
with our partners. The incubation process works privately with
project teams to address legal issues, in collaboration the
board and osgeo legal. Project teams also ask everyone to
practice responsible disclosure around security issues that
can have a wide effect.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 05:09, Alex Leith <<a href="mailto:alexgleith@gmail.com" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">alexgleith@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="">I have a couple of comments on wording:</div>
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<li class=""><font size="2" class="">Replace 'empathic' with 'empathetic'</font></li>
<li class=""><font size="2" class="">I think that you want to replace
'assertive' with 'positive'? So '...communicate in a
more positive way.' I might have it wrong here,
though.</font></li>
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<div class=""><font size="2" class="">I think your intent is really good,
and it's a great statement. One comment would be that
focussing on the specific issue may distract from the
more important issue, which is encouraging people to
be nice! But it does probably need to be said still,
so it's probably good how it is.</font></div>
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<div class=""><font size="2" class="">Kind regards,</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="">On Mon, 6 Aug 2018 at 18:44 María Arias de
Reyna <<a href="mailto:delawen@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">delawen@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="">Hi,<br class="">
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<div class="">As mentioned on last board meeting, I'm
summarizing and posting everything we got so
far on this subject.<br class="">
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So this comes from many threads already. To
simplify context: I'm trying to push some things
to improve OSGeo as a safe space where everybody
is welcomed and feel encouraged to work on our
goals.<br class="">
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CoC committee, as suspected, is gone. I
volunteered to pick up the task and be the new CoC
committee. Shared some emails with Kristin Bott
for this and she's happy with it. It would be good
if it is not only me (worst case: what if I am
involved in something the CoC has to review?), but
for a start, that will do.<br class="">
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Actions: <br class="">
1.- I need to get access to the CoC internal and
public email. Jeff, I think you have privileges to
do so?<br class="">
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2.- We should have some kind of news saying this.
Maybe we should wait for the following action?<br class="">
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I also wrote this statement to make them official.
Pending more review. Remember I am not a native speaker
and this is intendedly neutral. If it doesn't sound
neutral, then please, correct me:<br class="">
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"Recent events in the community have shown that we have
to work on how to make the communication friendlier. We
all, as OSGeo, must remove the recent bullying and
campaigning mentality that is unfortunately part of the
recent OSGeo culture. Fair play is key on all aspects of
communication both inside and outside the community
channels, because an OSGeo member represents the
community at all times. We should remember to be
empathic and kind to all members of the community. We
are all fighting for the same goals and we should
encourage cooperation, not hinder each other. Disclosing
private data or hinting threats is not helpful and can
only make our community less comfortable for everyone.
We will work on improving actions on harmful behavior
and learn how to communicate on a more assertive way. We
don't want to punish involuntary behavior that may be
harmful, but improve it to make the community stronger
and healthier.<br class="">
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We want to remind the community that, up till now, local
and regional events are not required to disclose their
budgets and accounts. Although we want to be as
transparent as possible, we understand that each LOC can
negotiate private agreements with different providers
that benefit the community and can't be disclosed. This
is a transparency we accept to give up in favor of being
able to reach further. In any case, we kindly ask local
and regional events to disclose as much information as
possible, in addition to statistics and demographics of
participants, to collect data that will help organize
future events and improve diversity. All events, big or
small, are important to our community and all of them
are doing an outstanding work in expanding our mission
and we want them to succeed."<br class="">
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<div class="m_2584767277538419139m_-1244656807027854553gmail-adL">Actions:
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<div class="m_2584767277538419139m_-1244656807027854553gmail-adL">3.-
Please, someone review or comment or suggest or at
least say it is fine. <br class="">
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<div class="m_2584767277538419139m_-1244656807027854553gmail-adL">4.-
Board members, if you don't agree, please, elaborate
on how to improve it. I don't want to delay it much
further.<br class="">
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<div class="">The third thing I am working on is to get a
revision of the CoC. For that I am doing first
some research, but in the coming months (free time
availability and more volunteers dependent) I
expect to elaborate and review it to improve it. <br class="">
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<div class="">Actions:<br class="">
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<div class="">5.- I guess me, compiling more info. <br class="">
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<div class="">Greetings from the beach and have a nice day!<br class="">
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<div class="">María.<br class="">
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