<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Hello all<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">I feel the need to explain why I moved Sara's name to retired section of charter members page.</div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">F</span><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">rom my point of view, I am writing my thought process.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><b>First mail thread</b><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Her original question:</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"> <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037553.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037553.html</a></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">As you can see originally she did not mention that she wanted to retire.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">She just asked for the procedure for doing so.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Why did no one answer the question? because there is no procedure for asking for retirement. <br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">All subsequent reply's just assumed that she wanted to retire.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">First response:</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"> <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037554.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037554.html</a> <br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"> asks for reconsideration, but accepts the decision.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br> </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Second response:</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"> <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037561.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037561.html</a></div><div class="gmail_default"><font size="1"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">I know how the written word can be so hurtful these days</span></font></div></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">T<span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">he assumption of retirement, I think, is confirmed with her response<br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037563.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037563.html</a></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">But also the empathy from the above comment opened the door more details</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">about her need to leave.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><pre>it's no longer wanting to be
affiliated with a community whose members make open threats to my
employment.</pre></div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">From Cameron response</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"> <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037566.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037566.html</a></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><font size="1"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">people leave either silently (as is usually the case)</span></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><font size="1"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><br></span></font></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"> For me, if this is true, then its worries me, who silently has retired?</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Also<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><font size="1">or publicly as you have suggested here</font></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace"><font size="1"><br></font></span></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">So, because now her desire for retirement is officially public and her reason is also public</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"> the door was open for the why's</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">In<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037567.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037567.html</a></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">She says:<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><pre>I was originally trying to avoid any semblance of "stirring up trouble",
but I think I messed up and need to be clearer.</pre></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">I think she didn't mess up, she made a question, that had no answer.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">The rest of us started the "stirring up trouble" by indirectly asking the whys<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Unfortunately this particular section shows that she feels attacked:<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br> </div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><pre>><i> We should do our best to ensure opinions are stated respectfully, and
</i>encourage forgiveness when we slip up and get a bit passionate.
I'm not sure who you are referring to with this, but please do let me know
if you mean me.
<br></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">She had no public answer to that comment, unless this is considered to be the answer to that comment:<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037573.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-June/037573.html</a><br></span></pre></div><div class="gmail_default"><pre>Could each of us please be a bit more measured and forgiving when
responding. It seems a few words have been selected which caused more
offense than intended.<br><br></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The rest of the thread is about CoC, and Sara's question was never answered, <br>As I was not part of CRO and no one from board or from CRO said explicitly<br>that her resignation (I would used this term) was accepted I could<br>not do anything at that time.<br><br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Second mail thread</b><br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">This other e-mail thread was different:<br><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2018-December/011813.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2018-December/011813.html</a><br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">She is asking to be retired, and not only that, she is asking <b>**me</b> ** explicitly to do it.<br><br><font size="1"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">Vicky - similarly, I understand you have the ability to edit the web
content at <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/">www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/</a>. If that's not correct
either, please feel free to forward as needed.</span></font>
<br><br>As being part of CRO this year, I thought I could do it. No questions asked from my part.<br>I did it without asking the other CRO members. I only informed them of my actions.<br><br>By the way, I just googled Returning Officer, and now I am sure that the idea I had in my mind is wrong.<br><a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/returning%20officer">https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/returning%20officer</a><br>But I am not taking it back.<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Continuing with the thought process, I don't feel I have the right to ask the why's.<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The answers could be tough and personal:<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">What if ... <br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Instead of Sara, it was me asking, here are some possible answers that you could have received<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- My <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">brother</span> fell down 400mts down the cliff then ...<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- My other brother had a head on collision then ...<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- A stingray stung my father then ... <br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- My smallest brother was almost beheaded then ...<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- My 9 y.o. son fell down head first from a first floor then ...<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- My 11 y.o. son crashed a tractor to a car, a tree and almost an electricity pole then ..<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- This is hypothetical: Fortunately <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Vicky is still around </span>after <br><a href="http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2017-09-19.log">http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2017-09-19.log</a> but then ... signed (husband)<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In other instances, they might be Job related, I think of possible reasons:<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- I am starting a new Job that forbids me to do open source then ...<br>- The company where I work feels that my participation is diminishing my efficiency then ...<br>- <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The company where I work feels that my participation is too open then ...</span></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In all those cases the Job is threatened and we can not do nothing. so why ask?<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">if the reason is an OSGeo community related reason<br>Who has the right to ask?: A Board member? A CRO member? A CoC committee member? Any charter member? Any member?<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">What is the best way to ask? Using public list? Using private e-mail? Video conference?<br>Remember:<br><font size="1"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">I know how the written word can be so hurtful these days<br></span></font></span></pre>I've been looking around to find policies that answer the questions above.</div><div class="gmail_default">Haven't found anything yet.</div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></pre></div><div class="gmail_default">Therefore this could happen: <br></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2018-December/011814.html">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2018-December/011814.html</a><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></span><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></pre></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">A</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> charter member asked privately but<br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><pre><i>I'm emailing privately, but please do reply publicly if you feel you wish </i><i>to.
</i>...<br><i>If you are answering</i><i> publicly, I suggest not naming specific people.</i></pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Why ask again?, wasn't the first mail thread enough explanation?<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">What would have happened if she answers privately? would the board be informed?, the CoC committee being informed? Which other committee needs to be informed?<br><br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">This time was Cameron, long time charter member and that knows more about procedures than me.<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">But what if ...<br>It was "X", just for curiosity<br>or <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">It was "Y" </span> maybe to use the information later for an article or blog about OSGeo problems?<br>or it was "Z" maybe because the answer was private, with names and that in the future could be used to harm more Sara's Job<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Some conclusions</b><br><br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In general, see through those mailing threads that charter members express their concerns openly and right away.<br>We are not here only for voting.<br>Our participation goes beyond that.<br><br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Some charter members (or simply members) are new, and even me, I feel I am still in the learning stage.<br>We are curious and we ask questions.<br>If there is an answer, just answer, don't assume intentions.<br>If there is no answer, lets look/work for the answer, and again don't assume intentions.<br></span></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>If there is a code of conduct problem, and the problem is mailed to CoC mailing lists, because of the list visibility, everything would be out in the open. <br>The current mailing list list could be used only for discussion of the CoC contents & procedures but not for publishing a problem.<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In our ignorance as new charter members, we ask in discuss, the problems then arise in discuss,<br>everything is public, and written word can not be taken back.<br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Have a separate private CoC mailing list to where problems are forwarded and only CoC committee members have access to. <br>Probably there is but as I am not part of CoC, I don't know, therefore If I see a problem I would not know where to send it. <br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><b>My Justification</b><br><br></span></pre><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From this I felt I need to justify my self<br></span></pre><font size="1"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">I think that this request of withdraw together with the public accuses it
</span></font><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><pre><font size="1"><span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">expresses cannot be simply resolved with a wiki page modification.
</span></font></pre>I agree with that, but putting myself on Sara's shoes, its important for her to have</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">her name in the retired section as **her Job is on the line**.</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Now I think:</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">I would have done it back then and have myself deal with</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">dealing the problem because of doing it in OSGeo,</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">but don't have her job on the line for 5 months waiting for an answer.<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">I am really really sorry that having being able to do it in July, I didn't do it,</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">just because I thought it was not my call.<br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">I hope in the future when someone has the:</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">- job on the line for whatever reason</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">- life on the line for whatever reason</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Instead of making the process to resign longer, we act faster</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">**If its in my hand and possibility I will do it fast.**</div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div></div><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span id="en-NIV-25188" class="gmail-text gmail-Luke-6-41"><span class="gmail-woj">Regards<br></span></span></font></pre><pre><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span id="en-NIV-25188" class="gmail-text gmail-Luke-6-41"><span class="gmail-woj">Vicky<br></span></span></font></pre></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><pre><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><span class="gmail-sb-0"><span class="gmail-dt"><span class="gmail-dtText"></span></span></span></span></pre></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 2:27 AM Massimiliano Cannata <<a href="mailto:massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch">massimiliano.cannata@supsi.ch</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Dear Astrid,<div dir="auto">I think that this request of withdraw together with the public accuses it expresses cannot be simply resolved with a wiki page modification.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This call the OSGeo code of conduct committee and the board in its highest function of guarantor of the community to address the accuses and take public position with an official communication.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Whether the accuses are true or not I believe this situation is negatively impacting our community brand and trust.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This fact cannot pass over silence anymore and therefore I publicly call the board to urgently express and take a position on this.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Let's see if this mail worth a response...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto">Maxi</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Il giorno ven 7 dic 2018, 07:56 Astrid Emde (OSGeo) <<a href="mailto:astrid_emde@osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">astrid_emde@osgeo.org</a>> ha scritto:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello Sara,<br>
<br>
thanls for your email and sorry, that it took a while to work on your <br>
request.<br>
<br>
You are now listed as retired OSGeo Charter Member at<br>
<br>
<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/</a><br>
<br>
I also edited your User page in the wiki and deleted Charter member:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Sarasafavi" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Sarasafavi</a><br>
<br>
If you would like to change more content on your charter member page you <br>
can do so.<br>
<br>
All the best Astrid<br>
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Astrid Emde<br>
OSGeo Board Member and OSGeo Secretary<br>
Open Source Geospatial Foundation<br>
<a href="https://www.osgeo.org/member/astrid-emde/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/member/astrid-emde/</a><br>
<a href="mailto:astrid_emde@osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">astrid_emde@osgeo.org</a><br>
<br>
Am 04.12.2018 16:54 schrieb Sara:<br>
> Board elections have come & gone and so I'm revisiting this request:<br>
> please change my Charter membership status to "retired".<br>
> <br>
> Astrid - I've been told you have the ability to modify any relevant<br>
> "master lists". If this isn't true please feel free to forward this to<br>
> the right person.<br>
> <br>
> Vicky - similarly, I understand you have the ability to edit the web<br>
> content at <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/</a> [1]. If that's not<br>
> correct either, please feel free to forward as needed.<br>
> <br>
> cc'd board@lists to help facilitate the request.<br>
> <br>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>
> From: SARA <<a href="mailto:sara@sarasafavi.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">sara@sarasafavi.com</a>><br>
> Date: Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 12:00 PM<br>
> Subject: How to retire membership status?<br>
> To: OSGeo Discussions <<a href="mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">discuss@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
> <br>
> Hello community,<br>
> <br>
> Can someone point me at the relevant documentation re: retiring<br>
> current membership status? Specifically, related to Charter<br>
> membership.<br>
> <br>
> I understand the processes to nominate & add new charter members but<br>
> not clear on how current charter members can retire.<br>
> <br>
> To put it another way: how to edit<br>
> <a href="https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/</a> [2]?<br>
> <br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Sara Safavi<br>
> <br>
> Links:<br>
> ------<br>
> [1] <a href="http://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/</a><br>
> [2] <a href="https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/about/charter-members/</a><br>
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Salzmannstraße 44,
81739 München, Germany
Vicky Vergara
Operations Research
eMail: vicky@<a href="http://georepublic.de" target="_blank">georepublic.de</a>
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Commercial register: Amtsgericht München, HRB 181428
CEO: Daniel Kastl
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