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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I fully support Vasile and his
decisions as CRO.</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">As a nominee in the election process, I
am happy that after the extension we had more candidates than the
seats available, because this is what democracy is about. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">If the board members were elected "by
default", one could argue that they would not have been
legitimized by the election process and that would affect the
decision process in the future.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Best,</div>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Angelos<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/9/18 3:02 PM, María Arias de
Reyna wrote:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Dear all,
I think Vasile summarized properly the Board position too. We were worried
that there were not enough candidates to ensure a real election. The CRO
proposed to extend the period, as it has been done in the past on other
circumstances, and we agreed it was the proper way to proceed. There was no
official loomio vote because the CRO has the authority to decide on
election procedures, but informally we agreed on the solution.
As a side note, on this community we tend to be very relaxed on deadlines,
as long as it means the community benefits from it (most of the mistakes
are due to time zones or technical problems). Should we be more strict?
Could be. But I still think this is not the case, as this was a decision
consultated by the board and the board agreed, even if we considered the
CRO independent enough to do the decision alone.
Have a nice day!
María.
On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 12:54 PM Till Adams <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de"><till.adams@fossgis.de></a> wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Dear @all,
I totally agree with Vasile here. I do not see any problems, as there
was only an extension of the nomination period, not of the vote itself.
That means, that all candidates had the same chances, when the actual
vote was started.
Also the board was involved and none of them disagreed.
@Gerald: I wonder a little, that you did not insist at the point when
the extension of the nomination period was alerted. In my eyes, that
would have been the correct time to raise your hand. Doing that after
the vote is a little like the vote didn't go as planned, so I'm
protesting now.
Just my sunday-comment... ;-)
Regards, Till
Am 08.12.18 um 09:15 schrieb Vasile Craciunescu:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Dear Gérald,
Until the board will officially present a position on the issue raised
by you, please let me express CRO point of you, as CRO position was
involved in this matter.
1. CRO initiated the deadline extension. This was done in good faith,
taken in consideration the best interest of OSGeo. In this case, we
consider that OSGeo credibility and the credibility of the entire
voting process was in risk, having elections with 4 nominations for 4
vacancies. Deadline were extend in past elections (also this year), by
CRO decision, due to technical problems or just to allow more people
to vote. Nobody complained about this. We also do not see this terms
to be so strict. To quote the Board Election Procedure[1] "The
nomination period should be approximately 1 week long.". In well
justified situations, CRO should be able to change the deadlines.
2. OSGeo board was privately consulted (board-priv mailing list) on
the deadline extension. It's true, no formal votes were recorded but
nobody from the board expressed a different opinion.
Best,
Vasile
[1] <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Election_Procedure">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Election_Procedure</a>
On 12/8/18 7:01 AM, Gérald Fenoy wrote:
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Dear OSGeo Board of Directors,
I would like to express my afraid about the validity of the recent
board election and also make suggestion to ensure that democratic
(aspect) sanctity of the election process is maintained.
1) Did the board authorize the decision to extend the nomination
period? Even if this was authorized, I think it is highly improper to
extend nomination deadline once the nomination process has already
started.
2) Was the decision to extend nomination period only made by the
CRO's? If that was the case, this is also grossly improper since CROs
are only mandated to conduct the voting process and not change the
rules of the election especially after the election process started.
At least this is my understanding.
Considering the two points raised above, I strongly suggest that the
people nominated after the initial deadline should not be counted.
Their votes should be divided among the four candidates who were
nominated before the initial nomination deadline and the new board
members should be declared from among the four nominees. The other
option is to cancel the board election and start the voting process
again including only the people that were nominated in time.
Gérald Fenoy
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