<div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="auto">It come down to the intention for community projects, what we are trying to accomplish with the program. When the program was created it was to foster innovation (something incubation does not address with its focus on stability).</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I am happy to move some of this discussion to the incubation list, however this thread was focused on relaying the result of our recent board meeting and composing an email to send out. </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 3:03 PM Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Jody, board,</p>
<p>I question the wisdom of managing community project budgets
through the OSGeo board instead of through one of OSGeo's
sub-committees (probably the incubation committee in this case).</p>
<p>Centralising important decisions (such as budget management)
disempowers the volunteers within that committee, increases the
workload on the board, and is contrary to the bottom up
coordination which typifies successful open source projects.</p>
<p>How would you feel about board members subscribing to the
incubation committee email list, and then making community project
related decisions within the framework of the incubation
committee? (Same workload, different forum). It would provide a
more targeted discussion for community projects to engage in, will
empower a broader community to participate, and has potential to
attract more people into the committee.<br>
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<p>Cheers, Cameron<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_-5405916324508428187m_670830674568980674moz-cite-prefix">On 22/12/18 11:46 am, Jody Garnett
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">So with that in mind,</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Here is a draft email for feedback before we send
it out:</div>
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<div style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-size:13.33px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><i><b>Subject:
</b>2019 Community project budget</i></div>
<div style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-size:13.33px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><i>Good
afternoon:</i></div>
<div style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-size:13.33px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><br>
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<div style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-size:13.33px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><i>We
are reaching out to the osgeo community as part of setting
our foundation's budget for 2019. As a community project
we would like to know how we can help you in the year
ahead.</i></div>
<div><i>The board is managing a budget for the community
project program this year and we invite your input, either
to the board email email list, or by participating in the
January board meeting.</i></div>
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<div><i>Jody Garnett, Board of Directors</i></div>
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<div dir="ltr">And a second draft for those in incubation:</div>
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<div style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><i><b>Subject:
</b>2019 Community project budget</i></div>
<div style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><i>Good
afternoon:</i></div>
<div style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><br>
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<div style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-size:13.33px;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><i>The
OSGeo board is reaching out to our community as part of
setting the foundation's 2019 budget. The </i><i>board is
managing a budget for the community project program this
year and invites your input, either on the board email
list, or by participating in the January board meeting.</i></div>
<div style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><i><br>
</i></div>
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<blockquote style="padding:0px;margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px" dir="ltr">
<div style="text-align:left;color:rgb(34,34,34);text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-size:13.33px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-weight:400;text-decoration:none;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal"><i>As
incubation chair I am also putting together a budget
request for 2019 and will be attending the board January
board meeting. If your project has plans to work towards
graduation this year let's discuss on the incubation list
any ways we can help out financially. While the incubation
committee cannot hire someone to perform the code
providence review (your team gaining experience is part of
incubation), we would be more than happy to help your team
members attend the OSGeo code sprint, or help setup a
face-to-face meeting with your incubation mentor.</i><i><br>
</i></div>
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<div><i>Jody Garnett, Incubation Chair</i></div>
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<div class="gmail-m_-5405916324508428187m_670830674568980674gmail-m_-514753310444573417gmail_signature">Feedback
welcome</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 at 16:32, Jody Garnett <<a href="mailto:jody.garnett@gmail.com" target="_blank">jody.garnett@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Action item out of yesterday's board meeting to reach
out to community projects</div>
<div>.</div>
<div>- looking at managing community projects as a group as
a board initiative, so a group budget</div>
<div>- for those in incubation we are going to try and bump
up the incubation budget to support incubation sprints</div>
<div>- want to reach out to community projects asking for
their input (assume input is sent to board email list?)</div>
<div>- I would like to mention a date for the January
meeting if we can establish one :)</div>
<div>- did I miss anything above?<br clear="all">
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<div>Jody Garnett</div>
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