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    <p>Within volunteer organisations such as OSGeo and Open Street Map,
      legal structures such as a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) hold
      much less weight and value than they do within proprietary
      organisations. That is because they have little coercive influence
      over the people within the organisation. What matters is the
      hearts, minds and actions of the volunteers. Observe how people
      spend their time and I think that is the measure you should
      reference.</p>
    <p>Search OSGeo user profiles to see how many reference Open Street
      Map or OSM. Note also that they are people like me who are active
      OSGeo contributors, who believe in the core values of OSM and are
      silent OSM contributors.</p>
    <p>I think the statement you will likely want to make is that OSGeo
      and OSM have very similar goals (maybe quote them), and that many
      volunteers contribute to both. OSGeo focuses on software, OSM
      focuses on data.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26/4/19 5:10 am, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
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          <div dir="ltr">We consider them a friend (as opposed to
            partner where we have an agreement or joint activity). We
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                      <div>Jody Garnett</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 04:14,
          Astrid Emde (OSGeo) <<a href="mailto:astrid_emde@osgeo.org"
            moz-do-not-send="true">astrid_emde@osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello
          Angelos, hello Maria,<br>
          <br>
          and thanks for the answers.<br>
          <br>
          OSM is catagoriesed as "Like minded Organization". So that
          looks fine.<br>
          <br>
          But maybe we should work on the wikipage and update it.<br>
          <br>
          <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap</a><br>
          <br>
          I added some SotM Events to our event page. Hope that is ok.<br>
          <br>
          <a href="https://osgeo.org/events/" rel="noreferrer"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://osgeo.org/events/</a><br>
          <br>
          Astrid<br>
          <br>
          Am 25.04.2019 12:28 schrieb Angelos Tzotsos:<br>
          > There was a discussion between board members of both
          organizations<br>
          > during FOSS4G 2016 in Bonn.<br>
          >  We were told at that time that OSM does not operate with
          MoUs but we<br>
          > agreed to keep in touch.<br>
          > <br>
          >  On 4/25/19 12:42 PM, María Arias de Reyna wrote:<br>
          > <br>
          >> We are in close contact with GeoChicas... but nothing
          official.<br>
          >> <br>
          >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 11:20 AM Astrid Emde (OSGeo)<br>
          >> <<a href="mailto:astrid_emde@osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">astrid_emde@osgeo.org</a>><br>
          >> wrote:<br>
          >> <br>
          >>> Hello all,<br>
          >>> <br>
          >>> i am preparing a talk for this years SotM in
          Heidelberg and was<br>
          >>> thinking<br>
          >>> about the releationship from OSGeo to
          OpenStreetMap.<br>
          >>> <br>
          >>> Do we have any agreement or MoU?<br>
          >>> <br>
          >>> <a
            href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_OSGeo_All"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_OSGeo_All</a>
          [1]<br>
          >>> <br>
          >>> I only found this <a
            href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap</a>
          [2]<br>
          >>> <br>
          >>> Astrid<br>
          >>> <br>
          >>> --<br>
          >>> <br>
          >>>
          -------------------------------------------------------------<br>
          >>> Astrid Emde<br>
          >>> OSGeo Board Member and OSGeo Secretary<br>
          >>> Open Source Geospatial Foundation<br>
          >>> <a
            href="https://www.osgeo.org/member/astrid-emde/"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.osgeo.org/member/astrid-emde/</a>
          [3]<br>
          >>> <a href="mailto:astrid_emde@osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">astrid_emde@osgeo.org</a><br>
          >>> _______________________________________________<br>
          >>> Board mailing list<br>
          >>> <a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >>> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a>
          [4]<br>
          >> <br>
          >> _______________________________________________<br>
          >> Board mailing list<br>
          >> <a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          >> <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a>
          [4]<br>
          > <br>
          > --<br>
          > Angelos Tzotsos, PhD<br>
          > Charter Member<br>
          > Open Source Geospatial Foundation<br>
          > <a href="http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos" rel="noreferrer"
            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos</a>
          [5]<br>
          > <br>
          > <br>
          > Links:<br>
          > ------<br>
          > [1] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_OSGeo_All"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/MOU_OSGeo_All</a><br>
          > [2] <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap</a><br>
          > [3] <a href="https://www.osgeo.org/member/astrid-emde/"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.osgeo.org/member/astrid-emde/</a><br>
          > [4] <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
          > [5] <a href="http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos</a><br>
          > <br>
          > _______________________________________________<br>
          > Board mailing list<br>
          > <a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          > <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          Board mailing list<br>
          <a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
          <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a></blockquote>
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