<div dir="ltr">Thanks Astrid, I will make a motion for us to do this :)<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 19:06, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) <<a href="mailto:astrid_emde@osgeo.org">astrid_emde@osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br>
<br>
I collected (hopefully) all the information from the thread to the <br>
ticket:<br>
<br>
<a href="https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/osgeo/todo/issues/37" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/osgeo/todo/issues/37</a><br>
<br>
In the board meeting we decided to make the final discission in the <br>
marketing committee. So the discussion we go on there.<br>
<br>
Thanks everybody for the discussion.<br>
<br>
Astrid<br>
<br>
Am 17.06.2019 21:40 schrieb Astrid Emde (OSGeo):<br>
> Hello,<br>
> <br>
> here are the answers to the questions:<br>
> <br>
> 1. We definitely publish our FOSS4G Videos at TIB AV-Portal - there is<br>
> a great team at TIB AV-Portal and the workflow and rules are defined -<br>
> see<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS_for_GIS_video_tutorials_and_screencasts#Where_to_publish_your_screencast" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS_for_GIS_video_tutorials_and_screencasts#Where_to_publish_your_screencast</a><br>
> <br>
> 2. who administrates the youtube account?<br>
> I can administrate the account and find some more volunteers.<br>
> One volunteer already showed up.<br>
> <br>
> 3. Information about FOSS4G videos<br>
> There is a video section in the FOSS4G handbook already. We could add<br>
> the youtube information<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Videos" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_Handbook#Videos</a><br>
> <br>
> 4. License<br>
> The videos neet to have the CC BY-SA 4.0 License (speaker have to agree<br>
> in advance).<br>
> At events the speaker have to agree to this license before. Else no<br>
> upload is possible (same as for TIB AV-Portal)<br>
> <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/</a><br>
> <br>
> 5. Video Committee<br>
> There was an idea to create a video committee. Preparation was done <br>
> here<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Video_Committee" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Video_Committee</a><br>
> <br>
> 6. workflow to bring the videos to youtube<br>
> * for FOSS4G there will be a script that automatically uploads the<br>
> videos see<br>
> <a href="https://github.com/voc/voctopublish/blob/master/voctopublish/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/voc/voctopublish/blob/master/voctopublish/</a><br>
> * for other events a temporary storage on a server is needed to refer<br>
> to the videos and upload them (should work also automatically)<br>
> <br>
> 7. Why Youtube? pro / cons<br>
> * people search at youtube and will find FOSS4G videos here too<br>
> * pro immediate access to the videos -> TIB AV-Portal needs some weeks<br>
> * no longterm archive -> we also have TIB AV-Portal for this<br>
> * for FOSS4G 2019 it is just another place for the videos: we already<br>
> have <a href="https://av.tib.eu/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://av.tib.eu/</a> <a href="https://media.ccc.de/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://media.ccc.de/</a><br>
> <br>
> 8. Promote the channel<br>
> If we decide to use the channel and use it also for other events we<br>
> would promote it when we hear about upcoming OSGeo events. But no<br>
> must. If events still would like to use their own channel that would<br>
> be fine.<br>
> <br>
> Astrid<br>
> <br>
> Am 17.06.2019 17:42 schrieb Eli Adam:<br>
>> +1 to FOSS4G youtube account. Till raised a few good questions<br>
>> pertaining to the logistics side.<br>
>> <br>
>> Best regards, Eli<br>
>> <br>
>> On Sun, Jun 16, 2019 at 11:03 PM Till Adams <<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de" target="_blank">till.adams@fossgis.de</a>> <br>
>> wrote:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Dear Astrid,<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I think this is a good idea - although personally I am not big fan of<br>
>>> these social stuff, I hink it's a good way to promote open Source GIS<br>
>>> tools, as a lot of people outside our community will not find the <br>
>>> other<br>
>>> channels, where we put our video-mateirals.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> I have some practical issues regarding this:<br>
>>> <br>
>>> - who administers this account?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> - who actually puts the videos online?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> - do we need to get additional permission from the speakers?<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> Reagrds, Till<br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> <br>
>>> Am 15.06.19 um 23:02 schrieb Cameron Shorter:<br>
>>> > +1 Great idea to have the FOSS4G youtube channel.<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > We should decide whether we want this channel to be just for the<br>
>>> > international FOSS4G, or can be extended so that regional and local<br>
>>> > events can use it too. (I'm in favour of it being open to regional<br>
>>> > and local FOSS4G events).<br>
>>> ><br>
>>> > On 15/6/19 11:19 pm, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:<br>
>>> >> Hello,<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Youtube would only be a third location of our FOSS4G videos. Only an<br>
>>> >> offer not a must have. They have already all videos in TIB AV-Portal<br>
>>> >> (if the LOC provides them) and we can have them at <a href="https://media.ccc.de" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://media.ccc.de</a><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> The videos will have the CC BY-SA 4.0 License (speaker have to agree<br>
>>> >> in advance)<br>
>>> >> <a href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/</a><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> He have a page that refers to the video locations:<br>
>>> >> <a href="http://video.foss4g.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://video.foss4g.org/</a><br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> So youtube would be a nice to have but is not necessary.<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Astrid<br>
>>> >><br>
>>> >> Am 15.06.2019 14:03 schrieb María Arias de Reyna:<br>
>>> >>> HI,<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> Youtube has many obvious SEO and positioning advantages, but I'm<br>
>>> >>> doubtful of having all our videos on a privative platform like<br>
>>> >>> Google/Youtube, specially if we have enough "iron" to host ourselves.<br>
>>> >>> (See for example [1], we may have even more iron incoming). At least,<br>
>>> >>> I wouldn't have it as the primary entrypoint and storage of videos<br>
>>> >>> with such educational and state of the art value.<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> On a quick look I couldn't find any good explanation on the possible<br>
>>> >>> issues with Youtube and the license/IP. I assume you already checked<br>
>>> >>> for FOSSGIS and it is clear? I understand that "YOU GRANT TO YOUTUBE A<br>
>>> >>> NON-EXCLUSIVE, WORLDWIDE, perpetual license to freely sub-license,<br>
>>> >>> re-distribute, re-publish, monetize, and whatever they may want to do<br>
>>> >>> with your video"[2]. Would they be able to copy/paste and alter the<br>
>>> >>> video and then redistribute it in a way that is bad for OSGeo? (I know<br>
>>> >>> they have done some copy/paste to use for promotional videos, not sure<br>
>>> >>> if something else.)<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> They may monetize the videos. Are we ok with that? Are we going to ask<br>
>>> >>> all our speakers to be ok with that?<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> (And the answer may be that we are ok with all this, I just wanted to<br>
>>> >>> raise the issue.)<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> Cheers,<br>
>>> >>> María<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> [1] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2019-June/011163.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2019-June/011163.html</a> [7]<br>
>>> >>> [2] <a href="https://tubularinsights.com/youtube-copyright-ownership/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tubularinsights.com/youtube-copyright-ownership/</a> [8]<br>
>>> >>> (using this link because Youtube insists on showing me the Spanish<br>
>>> >>> version of the license)<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 11:52 AM Astrid Emde (OSGeo)<br>
>>> >>> <<a href="mailto:astrid_emde@osgeo.org" target="_blank">astrid_emde@osgeo.org</a>> wrote:<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>>> Hello,<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> FOSS4G is coming closer and we are planning to record all the<br>
>>> >>>> videos<br>
>>> >>>> from FOSS4G 2019 together with the c3voc-video team.<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> They will be uploaded at<br>
>>> >>>> * <a href="https://media.ccc.de/search/?q=FOSS4G" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://media.ccc.de/search/?q=FOSS4G</a> [1]<br>
>>> >>>> * and at TIB AV-Portal <a href="https://av.tib.eu/search?q=FOSS4G&loc=de" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://av.tib.eu/search?q=FOSS4G&loc=de</a> [2]<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> and if we want at youtube.<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> I would like to suggest to create a youtube account called "FOSS4G"<br>
>>> >>>> for<br>
>>> >>>> the global FOSS4G event.<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> This account does not exist yet.<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/foss4g" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/user/foss4g</a> [3]<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> Advantage<br>
>>> >>>> * with a permanent account people could subscribe<br>
>>> >>>> * all videos from FOSS4G are in one account<br>
>>> >>>> * better ranking for an active channel<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> There are many accounts for the individual events like:<br>
>>> >>>> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=FOSS4G" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=FOSS4G</a> [4]<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> F.e. we have a similar accounts for FOSSGIS where we upload every<br>
>>> >>>> year<br>
>>> >>>> our FOSSGIS-conference videos here (maybe also the FOSS4G europe<br>
>>> >>>> and NA<br>
>>> >>>> videos if we want)<br>
>>> >>>> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/fossgis/videos" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/user/fossgis/videos</a> [5]<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> What do you think about this idea?<br>
>>> >>>><br>
>>> >>>> Astrid<br>
>>> >>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> >>>> Board mailing list<br>
>>> >>>> <a href="mailto:Board@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank">Board@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
>>> >>>> <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a> [6]<br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>><br>
>>> >>> Links:<br>
>>> >>> ------<br>
>>> >>> [1] <a href="https://media.ccc.de/search/?q=FOSS4G" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://media.ccc.de/search/?q=FOSS4G</a><br>
>>> >>> [2] <a href="https://av.tib.eu/search?q=FOSS4G&loc=de" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://av.tib.eu/search?q=FOSS4G&loc=de</a><br>
>>> >>> [3] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/foss4g" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/user/foss4g</a><br>
>>> >>> [4] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=FOSS4G" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=FOSS4G</a><br>
>>> >>> [5] <a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/fossgis/videos" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/user/fossgis/videos</a><br>
>>> >>> [6] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board</a><br>
>>> >>> [7] <a href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2019-June/011163.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/sac/2019-June/011163.html</a><br>
>>> >>> [8] <a href="https://tubularinsights.com/youtube-copyright-ownership/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://tubularinsights.com/youtube-copyright-ownership/</a><br>
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