<div dir="ltr">Thanks everyone, this is all a good discussion - and one of the reasons the board has been reaching out to projects and promoting involvement in osgeo activities (AGM and annual budget).<div><br></div><div>I invite board members to read the above exchange and we will discuss on Monday's meeting.<br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>--</div><div>Jody Garnett</div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 at 00:48, Till Adams <<a href="mailto:till.adams@fossgis.de">till.adams@fossgis.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Dear Jody,<br>
<br>
I am also little surprised about the movememtns in the mapfish project,<br>
for me it looks little like a "take over" of the "old" Mapfish-project.<br>
Wehen Mapfish applied for incubation (around 2009/2010), I was voted<br>
into the PSC and I accompanied MapFish through this process. To be<br>
honest, since our incubation not much happened in PSC.<br>
<br>
On the Github "<a href="https://github.com/mapfish/mapfish/wiki/Community_PSC" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/mapfish/mapfish/wiki/Community_PSC</a>", I<br>
am still listed as a PSC-member, I never stepped back and AFAIK I was<br>
not asked to migrate the project into a new one. So, still, this<br>
mapfish-project is for me the incubated project and it seems, that<br>
nothing happens any more here.<br>
<br>
In general I wonder, that projects once they are incubated, never get a<br>
check towards license/code again, even if they move on a completely new<br>
platform and code-base. This may open the door to exactly, what we want<br>
to prevent: That projects get hijacked by one single company.<br>
<br>
Loking on the new github pages<br>
(<a href="http://github.com/camptocamp/c2cgeoportal" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://github.com/camptocamp/c2cgeoportal</a>), there is no PSC listed at all.<br>
<br>
I would suggest to invite the new geomapfish project to become an<br>
OSGeo-community project and, I agree with Primin, the (old) Mapfish<br>
should be retired.<br>
<br>
Just my 2 Cents,<br>
<br>
Till<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 20.11.19 um 08:18 schrieb Pirmin Kalberer:<br>
> Hi Jody,<br>
><br>
> On 19.11.19 01:02, Jody Garnett wrote:<br>
>> Earlier this year we places several osgeo projects that were not<br>
>> communicating (or no longer meeting osgeo expectations) into the<br>
>> OSGeo community program.<br>
>><br>
>> One project that asked for some more time was mapfish:<br>
>><br>
>> * The <a href="http://mapfish.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mapfish.org</a> <<a href="http://mapfish.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://mapfish.org</a>><a href="http://www.mapfish.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.mapfish.org/</a> website<br>
>> uses the old logo and documents MapFish 2.2 released in 2016<br>
>> * The osgeo project page was never filled in<br>
>> <a href="https://www.osgeo.org/projects/mapfish/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osgeo.org/projects/mapfish/</a> (1)<br>
>><br>
>> The good news is that the the project is very much alive, has a new<br>
>> GeoMapFish name, website <<a href="https://geomapfish.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://geomapfish.org</a>>, code base<br>
>> <<a href="http://github.com/camptocamp/c2cgeoportal" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://github.com/camptocamp/c2cgeoportal</a>>, and a new development<br>
>> team (indeed I am not sure if any current members took part in the<br>
>> incubation process).<br>
><br>
> This is quite surprising news for a former MapFish commiter. I wasn't<br>
> aware that there is any relaton between the MapFish project and the<br>
> c2cgeoportal project besides the new name.<br>
> MapFish had a very compelling architecture with a clear separation of<br>
> server and client side with a JSON API in between. As far as I<br>
> remember, C2C later decided to start a new project with a classic<br>
> monolithic approach. On our part we kept the Ruby on Rails server<br>
> implementation, which is actively developed under the name Mapfish<br>
> Appserver. It's not a real community project, since it's mainly<br>
> developed by the Canton of Zurich on their internal Git server today.<br>
><br>
>><br>
>> On the bright side Emmanuel and the MapFisk PSC produced a page for<br>
>> the AGM (slide 59) which is great and really improves communication.<br>
>><br>
>> My question though is simple - should we remove MapFish as an OSGeo<br>
>> project, and invite GeoMapFish to apply to the OSGeo Community<br>
>> program, or should we ask this PSC to quick march this project<br>
>> through the incubation checklist requirements to preserve continuity?<br>
><br>
> Since only MapFish Print is still alive, which is a Java application<br>
> inherited from the CartoWeb project, the MapFish project should be<br>
> officially retired.<br>
><br>
> Regards<br>
> Pirmin<br>
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