<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Hi,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div>Thank you all for taking the time to answer my questions.<div dir="auto"><br dir="auto">Unfortunately, I understand that at this time neither of the two proposed solutions seem to meet the primary requirement of keeping access to the current history intact.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I remain in the hope that a solution acceptable to the whole community will be found one day.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Pierre</div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Message d'origine --------</div><div>De : Michele M Tobias <mmtobias@ucdavis.edu> </div><div>Date : 2022-09-07 15 h 05 (GMT-05:00) </div><div>À : Regina Obe <lr@pcorp.us>, 'Jody Garnett' <jody.garnett@gmail.com>, 'Pierre Cardinal' <pierre.cardinal@sympatico.ca> </div><div>Cc : board@lists.osgeo.org </div><div>Objet : RE: [Board] Mailing lists interface </div><div><br></div></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I can’t comment on the details of email list tools, but given the lack us use of many of the general topic mailing lists for OSGeo, it might not be worth the effort to add
(or restore) features if the email functions are working otherwise.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I think it would be worth a try to have a Discourse site. The Davis R Users Group uses it so I’ve seen that you can set it up to email you if you want notifications of posts
(kind of like how GitHub can notify you of any posts to the Issues board). It’s not my favorite platform, but I’ve recently had discussions with a handful of students that they don’t even know what an email list is. The new Telegram group is getting a lot
of discussion, even if it’s been mostly about how to set up Telegram groups.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Michele</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Michele Tobias, PhD</span></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">370 Shields Library</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">(530)752-7532</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:mmtobias@ucdavis.edu"><span style="color:#0563C1">mmtobias@ucdavis.edu</span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">ORCID:
</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Noto Sans",sans-serif;color:#494A4C;background:white"><a href="https://orcid.org/0000-0002-2954-8710"><span style="color:#0563C1">0000-0002-2954-8710</span></a>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Board <board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Regina Obe via Board<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 7, 2022 11:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jody Garnett' <jody.garnett@gmail.com>; 'Pierre Cardinal' <pierre.cardinal@sympatico.ca><br>
<b>Cc:</b> board@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Board] Mailing lists interface</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I’m not familiar with the benefits of Mailman 3 over Mailman 2.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">There has been recent discussion about the difficulty some people have with using mailing lists.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Many people seem to prefer a forum like system over a mailing list system. One suggestion that gained much applause in this regard is discourse which many FOSS
systems seem to prefer over mailing lists. Only issue with it is the ease to bridge the gap between our mailing lists and discourse.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Discourse does seem like it can work as both a forum and a mailing list type setup:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="https://meta.discourse.org/t/start-a-new-topic-via-email/62977">https://meta.discourse.org/t/start-a-new-topic-via-email/62977</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Is it okay to stratify discussion like this, given that the mailing list system works for many, but we could garner a bigger crowd with discourse?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Some FOSS systems that were mentioned using discourse</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="https://community.opendronemap.org/">https://community.opendronemap.org/</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><a href="https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/">https://discuss.linuxcontainers.org/</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Board [<a href="mailto:board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org">mailto:board-bounces@lists.osgeo.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jody Garnett via Board<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 7, 2022 2:22 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Pierre Cardinal <<a href="mailto:pierre.cardinal@sympatico.ca">pierre.cardinal@sympatico.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> osgeo-board List <<a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Board] Mailing lists interface</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Not a board member here, but you are welcome to propose the idea of using Mailman 3 to the system committee at <a href="https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo">https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo</a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">OSGeo if volunteer driven, so if you have any experience to assist with migration it would be very welcome.<br clear="all">
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 7 Sept 2022 at 09:48, Pierre Cardinal via Board <<a href="mailto:board@lists.osgeo.org">board@lists.osgeo.org</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-CA">Since the announcement of the shutting down of Nabble, does the OSGeo board did something to replace it ? Without a friendly interface, it is difficult to users
to communicate with each other. To keep the old mailing lists, why the OSGeo does not use Mailman 3 ?
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