<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Well<br><br>I think I can do fine programming departamental codes. That means a Python programming code that is no so elegant but that works fine. I am geologist a person who learnt programming by myself but I have to much experience making programs for automatic map production with a procedural language but written with an object oriented like style. I am considering me a person who knows about programming restrictions in cartographic production and usually I can got the best of my programs because I think I can recongize the limits of computer methods.<br><br>Production python code, I think, must take in account carefully other elements like error detection routines, the use of version control systems and probably other methods/tools
suggested by the good practice manual that I am not so familiar but I know is not impossible to learn in short term.<br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span style="">(1)<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"> </span></font></span></span></font><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">What is the best Python library to use for parsing XML?</span></font></p><br>What
about xml parsing. Yes I have some experience processing xml with python and I did it by using standard and common python libraries like minidom. minidom is something simple and it create a dom object and you can navigate on it going from leaf to leaf but I am not sure that it will be a good library for parsing XML in a complete manner.<br><br>On programming I am usually work in a very conservative manner, I usually look for the most supported modules and I also I like to review if the implemented methods by the module are alike the standard methods (in this case all standard methods used in xml processing). I am not an expert but following the last enouced criteria I think the best way is use the standard xml.dom library.<br><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span style="">(2)<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span
style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"> </span></font></span></span></font><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Is there an existing Python library for parsing WKT? <br></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><br><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" size="3">I am not sure but I think this is something that is not so complicate to develop.</font></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><br><font color="navy" size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span style="">(3)<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"> </span></font></span></span></font><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I believe we can use OGR for reading ESRI Shapefiles. Is this what
you would recommend?</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><br><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" size="3">If the idea is create a code on top of MapNik, I think the best strategy will be use MapNik python API</font>.<br></span></font></p><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span style="">(4)<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;">
</span></font></span></span></font><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Is there an existing library that can take some sort of vector
geometries and convert them to rasters? (Something like the Java 2D graphics
library?) </span></font></p><br>I think you are telling me about vector to raster convertion as a GIS process. I've never ear about library for convert vector to rasters but there are some python modules that are so popular, I think can be use for doing something like this. PIL (Python Image Library) and SciPy (Scientific Python that include several recognized modules).<br><br><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Now that I think about it, using a vector
format like EPS or SVG might be easier than raster for the first output of the
sample rendering engine.</span></font><br><div> <br>Whatever you will whant to do when you print a map you must pass before from svg as a graphical format and then ps or eps as pre-printing format.<br><br>This is the schema of this workflow<br><br>data -> representation display -> svg generation -> pre-printing format (ps or eps)<br> ->
pdf<br> ->pdf<br>Regards<br><br></div>Gabriel Asato<br>Unidad Sensores Remotos y SIG<br>Servicio Geológico Minero Argentino<br>(SEGEMAR)<br>Av. Julio A. Roca 651 p 8 of 1<br>Cdad. Autónoma de Buenos Aires<br>ARGENTINA<br><br><div>tel 54-11-4349-3158/26<br>fax
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">It sounds like Python is the winner.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Carlos: Do you have experience with
Python? If you do, can you help with the following questions:</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span style="">(1)<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"> </span></font></span></span></font><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">What is the best Python library to use for parsing XML?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span style="">(2)<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"> </span></font></span></span></font><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Is there an existing Python library for parsing WKT? </span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span style="">(3)<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"> </span></font></span></span></font><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I believe we can use OGR for reading ESRI Shapefiles. Is this what
you would recommend?</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><span style="">(4)<font size="1" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal;"> </span></font></span></span></font><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Is there an existing library that can take some sort of vector
geometries and convert them to rasters? (Something like the Java 2D graphics
library?) </span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Now that I think about it, using a vector
format like EPS or SVG might be easier than raster for the first output of the
sample rendering engine.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">From:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Carlos Gabriel
Asato [mailto:g_asato2000@yahoo.com] <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 08, 2010
5:44 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Landon Blake<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial;">Python is nice for me!!<br>
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Best regards</span></font></p>
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Unidad Sensores Remotos y SIG<br>
Servicio Geológico Minero Argentino<br>
(SEGEMAR)<br>
Av. Julio A. Roca 651 p 8 of 1<br>
Cdad. Autónoma de Buenos Aires<br>
ARGENTINA</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; font-weight: bold;">De:</span></font></b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"> Landon
Blake <lblake@ksninc.com><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Para</span></b><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">:</span></b> George Silva
<georger.silva@gmail.com>; carto@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Enviado:</span></b> jueves, 8 de abril, 2010
21:01:20<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Asunto:</span></b> RE: [Carto] Sample Map
Rendering Input File</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">George,</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I need some more time to look at your
changes, but I quickly skimmed the XML file you provided, and I think we are
headed in the correct direction. I remember considering the requirement to
render multiple layers (roads and rivers, for example) from the same input file
after I sent my first sample. That means you’ve got to think about z ordering
when you render and about associating a style with each layer. It looks like
you’ve done this with some of your changes. I will try to ask some questions
about your other mods and post a revised XML file based on your suggestions
tomorrow.</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">If we get a simple input file busted out
before the weekend I can start putting together some test code next week. I’ll
need help with some suggestions from the group on the best way to handle XML
and WKT in Python. Unless there is little interest in the Python code among our
group, in which case I will use Java, since I will be much faster with that
language. :]</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><b><font color="navy" size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Landon</span></font></b></strong></p>
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carto-bounces@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:carto-bounces@lists.osgeo.org] <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>George Silva<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, April 08, 2010
4:29 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> carto@lists.osgeo.org<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Carto] Sample Map
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Hello Lando,<br>
<br>
I looked at your schema quickly and made some "changes". I just
noticed that I'm mixing map composition (within a software) with map printing
properties. Sorry about that.<br>
<br>
This of course, is just a suggestion :P<br>
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Please let me know what you think.<br>
<br>
George</span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:04 PM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tmitchell@osgeo.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:tmitchell@osgeo.org">tmitchell@osgeo.org</a>> wrote:</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Paul Spencer, I'd be very interested in your thoughts on how closely
one<br>
should model after existing APIs, thinking of MapServer MapScript for<br>
example. I assume the MAP->LAYER->STYLE->CLASS approach is used
by many<br>
apps in slightly different ways..?<br>
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Tyler</span></font></p>
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Landon Blake wrote:<br>
> Is formatting an XML doc on the wiki a pain in the neck?<br>
><br>
> How about the doc I attached as a starting point for an input file?<br>
> (It's XML!) :]<br>
><br>
> Landon<br>
> Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268<br>
> Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658<br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) [mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:tmitchell@osgeo.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:tmitchell@osgeo.org">tmitchell@osgeo.org</a>]<br>
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:39 PM<br>
> To: George Silva<br>
> Cc: Landon Blake; <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:carto@lists.osgeo.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:carto@lists.osgeo.org">carto@lists.osgeo.org</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Carto] Four Steps to Moving Forward With a Spec, Input<br>
> File, and Working Map Rendering Engine Prototype<br>
><br>
> George Silva wrote:<br>
>> I guess we could use some sort of UML or something<br>
>> near that to arrange all our ideas too. I'm not sure if everyone likes<br>
>> UML, but it helps me think and it's a great form of documenting. If<br>
>> anyone can suggest another, please do.<br>
><br>
> I'm hoping we can stick with a simple list of properties with too much<br>
> inner complexity needing diagramming. If we need we could do up an
XML<br>
> schema style document right in the wiki - would that be reasonable?<br>
><br>
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