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 resources when dereferenced.  These resources must be under some stable stewardship, ideally not linked with any commercial interest, and with a supporting community. Should the host be metadata101  or OSGeo—which is more stable and better supported.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Tom Kralidis [via OSGeo.org] [mailto:ml-node+s1560n5107713h84@n6.nabble.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 05, 2014 9:31 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Steve Richard<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [cat-interop] Metadata link types vocabulary proposal<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Thinking this though more, I think the way forward here is for this <br>
to be an OSGeo vocabulary, which we can build and manage under <br>
<a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab" target="_top">http://osgeo.org/vocab</a> like: <br>
<br>
<a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab/data/" target="_top">http://osgeo.org/vocab/data/</a>{provider}/{type}[/version]
<br>
<a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab/service/" target="_top">http://osgeo.org/vocab/service/</a>{provider}/{type}[/version]
<br>
<br>
Then providing a thin resolution layer, members of this vocabulary, when <br>
invoked via HTTP, would then dereference/resolve accordingly.  Like: <br>
<br>
<a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab/service/ogc/sos/1.0" target="_top">http://osgeo.org/vocab/service/ogc/sos/1.0</a><br>
<br>
would resolve to: <br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.opengis.net/sos/1.0" target="_top">http://www.opengis.net/sos/1.0</a> (which then resolves as per the
<br>
authoritative provider's wishes). <br>
<br>
This provides the following benefits: <br>
<br>
1./ metadata clients/servers can bind to the OSGeo vocabulary, thus <br>
     realizing the core goal of a harmonized link type list <br>
2./ anyone who really wants to invoke / resolve these can do so <br>
3./ This keeps OSGeo as a just a gatekeeper / custodian of the list with <br>
     redirects as appropriate, which gets us out of the complexity of <br>
     managing these across standards orgs/etc. <br>
<br>
Comments?  I've written a small Flask app to act as a high level <br>
resolver, based on our link types list and will resolve / redirect <br>
accordingly, which we can push forward for hosting, etc. <br>
<br>
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On Mon, 3 Mar 2014, Tom Kralidis wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
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> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2014 21:53:51 -0500 <br>
> From: Tom Kralidis <<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5107713&i=0" target="_top">[hidden email]</a>>
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> To: Paul van Genuchten <<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5107713&i=1" target="_top">[hidden email]</a>>
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> Cc: "<<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5107713&i=2" target="_top">[hidden email]</a>>" <<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5107713&i=3" target="_top">[hidden email]</a>>
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> Subject: Re: [cat-interop] Metadata link types vocabulary proposal <br>
> <br>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Paul van Genuchten <br>
> <<a href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5107713&i=4" target="_top">[hidden email]</a>> wrote:
<br>
>> I support Stephan at this point. The semantic web can be a big consumer <br>
>> of spatial data services, if we're able to optimally embed our data in <br>
>> it. Linking to controlled vocabularies by url is a big facilitator. <br>
>> <br>
> <br>
> Good points. <br>
> <br>
>> Sure i see the point of having a urn structure as <br>
>> {provider}:{type}:{identifier}:{version}. But this can also be managed <br>
>> in a (skos) vocabulary-identifier-as-url by using identifiers like: <br>
>> <br>
>> for example: <br>
>> <a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab/service/ogc/wms/1.1" target="_top">http://osgeo.org/vocab/service/ogc/wms/1.1</a><br>
>> <a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab/service/opensearch/opensearch/2.0" target="_top">
http://osgeo.org/vocab/service/opensearch/opensearch/2.0</a><br>
>> <br>
>> and <br>
>> <br>
>> <a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab/mediatype/esri/shapefile/1.0" target="_top">http://osgeo.org/vocab/mediatype/esri/shapefile/1.0</a><br>
>> <a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab/mediatype/ogc/gml/2.0" target="_top">http://osgeo.org/vocab/mediatype/ogc/gml/2.0</a><br>
>> <a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab/mediatype/w3c/json-ld/1.0" target="_top">http://osgeo.org/vocab/mediatype/w3c/json-ld/1.0</a><br>
>> <br>
>> or <br>
>> <br>
>> <a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab/service#ogc_wms_1_1" target="_top">http://osgeo.org/vocab/service#ogc_wms_1_1</a><br>
>> <a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab/mediatype#ogc_gml_2_0" target="_top">http://osgeo.org/vocab/mediatype#ogc_gml_2_0</a><br>
>> <br>
>> At this point we should consider if osgeo.org is the best place to set <br>
>> up such a service/vocab, as this is more a data-matter then a software <br>
>> matter. Should we connect with geovocab, w3c/ogc, dbpedia to have this <br>
>> set up? <br>
>> <br>
> <br>
> Based on the comments on HTTP URIs at <br>
> <a href="https://github.com/OSGeo/Cat-Interop/issues/3" target="_top">https://github.com/OSGeo/Cat-Interop/issues/3</a>, the OGC has this at
<br>
> <a href="http://www.opengis.net">www.opengis.net</a>.  However the structure is not SKOS-like. I guess one
<br>
> factor is how deep version negotiation would go. <br>
> <br>
> Then again, we could implement this in OSGeo and have resolver back to <br>
> their authoritative resources (i.e. <br>
> <a href="http://osgeo.org/vocab/service/csw/2.0.2" target="_top">http://osgeo.org/vocab/service/csw/2.0.2</a> could resolve to
<br>
> <a href="http://www.opengis.net/cat/csw/2.0.2" target="_top">http://www.opengis.net/cat/csw/2.0.2</a>.  Does this sound useful/make
<br>
> sense? <br>
> <br>
>> If we feel osgeo.org is a good place, let's post about it in the <br>
>> request-list... <br>
>> <br>
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