<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Here's the list of everyone on this list:<br><ol><li>Seven (aka Arnulf Christl)</li><li>Rob Emanuele</li><li>Camille E .Acey</li><li>Kristin Bott</li><li>Cameron Shorter</li><li>Sanghee Shin</li><li>Jeff McKenna</li><li>Jáchym Čepický</li><li>David Bitner</li><li>Daniel Nüst</li><li>Dan "Ducky" Little</li><li>Nicolas Bozon</li><li><a href="mailto:lists%2Bs1560n5223069h39@n6.nabble.com">lists+s1560n5223069h39@n6.nabble.com</a></li></ol><p>There have been no discussions on the private list. The private list is reserved for addressing actual violations and we still need a few more volunteers to join (Cameron I know you expressed interest but we wanted to announce it a few times to make sure we heard back from everyone who was interested. We'll get back to you soon). <br></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Sanghee Shin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shshin@gaia3d.com" target="_blank">shshin@gaia3d.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hello Cameron, <div><br></div><div>I’m also here as a lurker. </div><div><br></div><div>regards, </div><div><br><div>
신상희<br>---<br>Shin, Sanghee<br>Gaia3D, Inc. - The GeoSpatial Company<br><a href="http://www.gaia3d.com" target="_blank">http://www.gaia3d.com</a> 
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>2015. 10. 21., 오전 11:41, Cameron Shorter <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>> 작성:</div><div><div class="h5"><br><div>
  
    
  
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    Hi Camille,<br>
    +1 from me for your suggestions too.<br>
    <br>
    I'm interested to know who is subscribed to this list? It feels a
    bit silly writing to a list that doesn't have anyone listening on
    the other end. If you are watching I suggest speaking up and
    introducing yourself.<br>
    Has there been discussions on a private list that I'm unaware of?<br>
    <br>
    Camille, if you are a list admin, would you mind letting us know how
    many people are subscribed to the list.<br>
    <br>
    Warm regards, Cameron<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 21/10/2015 1:34 pm, Camille Acey
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Thanks, Rob! <br>
        <br>
        If you know of any other resources or have any recent/relevant
        forum or OSGeo experience that would inform these two tasks
        that'd be great!<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Rob
          Emanuele <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rdemanuele@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdemanuele@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">Chiming in just to say, +1 on those two
              suggested next steps. </p><p dir="ltr">I'm not sure if anyone would take issue with
              using Google forms as opposed to an open source reporting
              system run on OSGeo infrastructure (given the recent
              discussions on OSGeo-Discuss about code hosting), but I
              think that the ease of use for Google forms would make it
              a great choice.</p><p dir="ltr">The article on enforcement is very thorough,
              and I think it provides a good method to approach
              enforcement in a reasoned and de-escalating way. The line
              "Generally conference staff are not equipped for evidence
              gathering: we suggest not going around and "interviewing"
              others involved." The enforcers are not detectives or the
              police, and it makes sense that the sole focus of any
              actions would be "<b>the safety of your community members
                from harassment</b>".</p><p dir="ltr">-Rob</p>
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                  <div dir="ltr"><p dir="ltr">Thanks, Cameron.</p><p dir="ltr">We are not looking to make any changes
                      to the CoC at this point. Our job is to: <br>
                      <br>
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                    <ol>
                      <li>put together process around how members can
                        submit reports of CoC violations</li>
                      <li>create specific guidance for LOCs, moderators
                        and the board about how to deal with those
                        reports and reporters. <br>
                      </li>
                    </ol><p>We put together a list of places to start here -
                      <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/CodeofConduct_Documents#Resources" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/CodeofConduct_Documents#Resources</a></p><p>I suggest we:</p>
                    <ol>
                      <li>use this form as a starting point for Task #1
                        - <a href="https://www.drupal.org/governance/community-working-group/incident-report" target="_blank">https://www.drupal.org/governance/community-working-group/incident-report</a>
                        (not sure if its ok to use Google Forms, that's
                        what <a href="http://drupal.org/" target="_blank">drupal.org</a>
                        uses) <br>
                      </li>
                      <li>start an Enforcement page (useful info here <a href="http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Responding_to_reports" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Responding_to_reports" target="_blank">http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Responding_to_reports</a>
                        )</li>
                    </ol><p>What do you think? Is anyone else out there? if
                      so, please chime in! <br>
                    </p><p>Camille</p>
                    <div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 16, 2015 6:57 PM,
                      "Cameron Shorter" <<a href="mailto:cameron.shorter@gmail.com" target="_blank">cameron.shorter@gmail.com</a>>
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                        <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi all,<br>
                          I've drafted a suggested amendment to our CoC
                          to help us answer the question of what is/is
                          not in scope of a CoC breach.<br>
                          <br>
                          <a href="http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Code_Of_Conduct#Classification_Context" target="_blank">http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Code_Of_Conduct#Classification_Context</a><br>
                          <br>
                          <h3 style="font-weight:bold;margin:0px 0px 0.3em;padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.17em;border-bottom-style:none;font-size:16.764px;font-family:sans-serif;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:19.05px;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-image:none;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);background-repeat:repeat repeat"><span>Classification

                              Context</span></h3><div style="margin:0.4em 0px 0.5em;line-height:19.05px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.7px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:red">This additional section
                              proposed for version 2.0:</span></div><div style="margin:0.4em 0px 0.5em;line-height:19.05px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.7px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">As
                            guidance, content should align with a film
                            classification of: 12+ or PG or similar.
                            There are many<span> </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_content_rating_systems" rel="nofollow" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,102,187);padding-right:16px;background:transparent url("http://wiki.osgeo.org/skins/monobook/lock_icon.gif") no-repeat scroll 100% 50%" target="_blank">country
                              classifications</a>. To remove ambiguity,
                            we refer to the<span> </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Board#Film_and_video_game_classifications" rel="nofollow" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(51,102,187);padding-right:16px;background:transparent url("http://wiki.osgeo.org/skins/monobook/lock_icon.gif") no-repeat scroll 100% 50%" target="_blank">Australian
                              PG Classification</a>:</div>
                          <ul style="line-height:19.05px;list-style-type:square;margin:0.3em 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.7px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                            <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><i><b>Parental
                                  Guidance (PG)</b></i><span> </span>–
                              Not recommended for viewing or playing by
                              people under 15 without guidance from
                              parents or guardians. Contains material
                              that young viewers may find confusing or
                              upsetting. The content is mild in impact.
                              <ul style="line-height:1.5em;list-style-type:square;margin:0.3em 0px 0px 1.5em;padding:0px">
                                <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><b>Violence</b><span> </span>should
                                  be mild and infrequent, and should be
                                  presented in "a stylised or theatrical
                                  fashion, or in an historical context".</li>
                                <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><b>Themes</b><span> </span>should
                                  have a "mild sense of menace or
                                  threat" and be "discreet"</li>
                                <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><b>Frightening
                                    or Intense Scenes</b><span> </span>should

                                  be "mildly frightening" and have "low
                                  intensity"</li>
                                <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><b>Crude
                                    Humor</b><span> </span>should be
                                  "mild" or "low level"</li>
                                <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><b>Sex,
                                    nudity and drug use</b><span> </span>should
                                  be mild, infrequent, "discreetly
                                  implied" and "justified by context".</li>
                                <li style="margin-bottom:0.1em"><b>Coarse
                                    language</b><span> </span>should be
                                  mild and infrequent, and be justified
                                  by context.</li>
                              </ul>
                            </li>
                          </ul>
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                          <div>On 16/10/2015 6:38 am, Cameron Shorter
                            wrote:<br>
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                                        One thing I've been pondering
                                        since seeing the first few
                                        questions about<br>
                                        CoC being discussed is how to
                                        "classify" what is considered a
                                        CoC<br>
                                        breach. I'm yet to see any hard
                                        guidelines as to what is/is not<br>
                                        acceptable. (And this sucks up
                                        large amounts of bandwidth on
                                        email lists).<br>
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                                    <div>You did good research on this
                                      for FOSS4G CoC so it'd be great if
                                      you could get the ball rolling
                                      here! <br>
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                            Ok, I'll start looking into it.<br>
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                                        Looking around for what we can
                                        borrow as a standard reference,
                                        I wonder<br>
                                        whether we can borrow from film
                                        classifications:<br>
                                        <br>
                                        I'm familiar with the Australian
                                        classifications (being an
                                        Australian<br>
                                        myself), which are well defined:<br>
                                        <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Board#Film_and_video_game_classifications" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Classification_Board#Film_and_video_game_classifications</a></div>
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Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000" value="+61290095000" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5000</a>,  W <a href="http://www.lisasoft.com/" target="_blank">www.lisasoft.com</a>,  F <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099" value="+61290095099" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5099</a></pre>
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    <pre cols="72">-- 
Cameron Shorter,
Software and Data Solutions Manager
LISAsoft
Suite 112, Jones Bay Wharf,
26 - 32 Pirrama Rd, Pyrmont NSW 2009

P <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205000" value="+61290095000" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5000</a>,  W <a href="http://www.lisasoft.com/" target="_blank">www.lisasoft.com</a>,  F <a href="tel:%2B61%202%209009%205099" value="+61290095099" target="_blank">+61 2 9009 5099</a></pre>
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